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  • Admiral_Karasu changed the title to Dev blog 515 French DD Line Split announced

Merged, BTW.

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Ooo, new DDs? Hope they turn out to be fun...

It'll be a galaxy-spanning injustice if the T5 isn't immediately nicknamed 'Ma'.

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1 minute ago, Verblonde said:

Ooo, new DDs? Hope they turn out to be fun...

It'll be a galaxy-spanning injustice if the T5 isn't immediately nicknamed 'Ma'.

? Maladroit?

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I would like to see a French paper ship at the place of ex-Regia Cacciatorpediniere Legionario (there exists Le Hardi early preliminary that resembles Ognevoy), though it's just T6, there is also already examples of only (at least seemingly) incremental improvements on T5 in contrast to T4 (Visby vs. Klas Horn, Omaha vs. 1916 USN Scout cruiser, Galicia vs. Almirante Cervera), and it's some sort of justice for the French to finally claim a trophy ship from the Axis after how ZF-6 and FR-25, two French destroyer hulls, were presented in forms of Axis trophies.

WG Belgrade has successfully started working on what will possibly keep the game's update cycle for a couple of months after the Commonwealth cruisers event and proved that they are still able to develop newer contents, even though at a much slower rate resulting to significant lulls during patches and with a few new event modes teased in early 2023 ("strategic operations" form of events) still unavailable.

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13 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

? Maladroit?

Bingo! Cookie for you!

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Come on Frenchie Torpedo boats!

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Excellent. Real World ships. I do hope Maillé-Brézé is in the works as a premium. Not entirely sure why Orage is in there (the real world progression of T-47 to T-53 is good enough) or why WG is talking about 1938bis (as that's Marceau/Kleber)... but perhaps WG wanted a ship to give a flavour of the Italian Capitani Romani class ships which were given to France as reparations (and reconstructed into AA cruisers) without re-using Attilio Regolo.

I also hope they've fixed the guns on Le Hardi. In reality, they didn't work at all...

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Unexpected, but not unwelcome.

Some more info on the T10 ship from ye olde Wikipedia:

34kt top speed (presumably, this line will not be open-water fast gunboats like the existing line)

3x2 127mm/54cal dual purpose main battery (these are the same guns as found on Colbert and Marceau in-game)

3x2 57mm medium AA

4x 20mm light AA

4x3 550mm torpedo tubes (same arrangement as Kleber and Marceau)

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18 minutes ago, Wrath_of_Deadguy said:

34kt top speed (presumably, this line will not be open-water fast gunboats like the existing line)

begs the question, what's the concept for this line?... one would think something as fundamental would be clear and defined from start... 

 

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these DDs in real life where built for more fleet escort duties and to be more versatile, while the 139mm armed current french DD line we have right now where meant to attack enemy main battle lines and hunt down opposing DDs.

Im expecting this new line to be competing against US & UK DDs heck maybe even the german DD main branch in their area of expertise.

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I'm willing to give up some of the speed just to have smoke.

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2 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

I also hope they've fixed the guns on Le Hardi. In reality, they didn't work at all...

Neither did those on Tiger 59 (and by extension Minotaur), while the KGV class had trouble keeping all their main guns firing even at the best of times. Unsurprisingly, and thankfully, WOWS glosses over all those reliability issues and shows them all on their best behaviour 24/7. 

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All real ships except the T9, new models except the T6. Not bad WG, now to figure out if this is a gunboat, torpboat, or hybrid line.

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What bugs me is that we got no gameplay concept for those DDs. Torpedo focused ? Gun focused ? Hybrids ? smokes ? other gimmicks ?

If they want to introduce a new line, they should have some gameplay concept for them already but nothing was stated ... seems like we'll get trash ... I hope I am wrong ...

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8 hours ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

Neither did those on Tiger 59 (and by extension Minotaur), while the KGV class had trouble keeping all their main guns firing even at the best of times. Unsurprisingly, and thankfully, WOWS glosses over all those reliability issues and shows them all on their best behaviour 24/7. 

And no-one wants anything different. But it is amusing to see many of the French interwar AA and DD guns cheerfully blasting away when they often fired very slowly, if they fired at all,  as a Le Hardi class destroyer found out when it engaged a British one (from Wikipedia) In one engagement against a British destroyer in September 1940, Épée was only able to fire 14 rounds in six minutes before all her guns broke down. That's two and a third salvos. Almost all of the French 1930s DD and AA weapons had significant problems, to the extent that the MN was considering using their knowledge of the new British 4.7 MkIX/MkXX guns which appeared on the L and M Class DDs and designing a new gun and mount based on it. Ironic in itself, given the trouble the RN had with those ships' weapons. 

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9 hours ago, tfcas119 said:

All real ships except the T9, new models except the T6. Not bad WG, now to figure out if this is a gunboat, torpboat, or hybrid line.

that worries me, they will probably be bad since they are not fantasy ships

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Unless it comes with death ray AA and nuclear asw, not intrested. Not intrested in anything in fact. 

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I think it's wonderful that even 8 years in, we still have built-in-steel ships to look forward to. 

I am curious what the gameplay philosophy will be, given that the existing MN DDs are already quite versatile. 

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4 hours ago, Hugh_Ruka said:

What bugs me is that we got no gameplay concept for those DDs. Torpedo focused ? Gun focused ? Hybrids ? smokes ? other gimmicks ?

If they want to introduce a new line, they should have some gameplay concept for them already but nothing was stated ... seems like we'll get trash ... I hope I am wrong ...

 

Alot will depend on the gun characteristics.  If they fire fast, they will be basically a merger of USN and IJN lines.  We also don't know what consumables they will have, and those will also play a big part in what role these ships play.

 

Sometimes, the concept of a ship is just to fight.  The USN line has no concept beyond not having a concept, and has done well since the beginning of the game simply by being good combatants.

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