kriegerfaust Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On DeviantArt, an artist called Widget-IV has posted several ship designs with images and ship characteristics including information on armament. Use the links below. Two of these are Royal Navy battleship designs, while the third appears to be something different. https://www.deviantart.com/widget-iv/art/Battlship-Tempest-Re-Rendered-921178351 https://www.deviantart.com/widget-iv/art/Battleship-Starke-Re-Rendered-921177769 https://www.deviantart.com/widget-iv/art/Warship-Alauda-752277485 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriegerfaust Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Here the artist in question is MechPilot524, and we have designs for two battleships. The first one is HMS Warspite, a Queen Elizabeth class battleship, the second is a fictional post-WW2 battleship. Public domain Oulds, D C (Lt) Royal Navy official photographer Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Warspite_(03) https://www.deviantart.com/mechpilot524/art/HMS-Warspite-388829108 https://www.deviantart.com/mechpilot524/art/HMS-Queen-Victoria-388775949 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriegerfaust Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 A completely fictional destroyer design by SPM1082. https://www.deviantart.com/spm1082/art/Ill-Repute-Class-Destroyer-800002891 A fictional Soviet cruiser design by Dilandu. This should not be confused with the actual Kresta I class Soviet cruiser by the same name. https://www.deviantart.com/dilandu/art/Vladivostok-class-cruiser-scheme-511657380 This is a photograph of the actual French Bretagne class battleship Provence in port. On DeviantArt, what we have is a fictional design by the artist 1Wyrmshadow1 for a Frech super battleship by the same name. Public domain U.S. Navy booklet ONI203 Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_battleship_Provence https://www.deviantart.com/1wyrmshadow1/art/Provence-Battleship-143132608 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snargfargle Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 How come I got an ad asking if I wanted an AI to create me some "furry" art when I clicked one of those links? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArIskandir Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 3 hours ago, Snargfargle said: How come I got an ad asking if I wanted an AI to create me some "furry" art when I clicked one of those links? Probably the algorithm is cross checking your career in biology 😜 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipcanuck Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The pics look good but as a designer, his numbers are out to lunch. Take the Starke for example, 4 triple 20" guns would be in excess of 3k tons each, 8 dual 15" guns would be 1500 tons each. 24,000 tons of major gun armament on a 100k ton displacement isnt going to leave much displacement for armour or engines. Most battleships use 30-40% of their total displacement for belt, deck, splinter deck and turret face armour, a displacement of 130k tons or more is more likely. To move 130k tons at 30 knots would require a massive amount of horsepower. For example, it took 200,000 ish horsepower to get the Iowas (4k tons of engines) to 30 knots, 25% or more hp for them to reach 33 knots. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snargfargle Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 22 minutes ago, ArIskandir said: Probably the algorithm is cross checking your career in biology 😜 If the algorithm knew what we mammalologists do it would warn "furries" to steer well clear of us. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 9 minutes ago, hipcanuck said: The pics look good but as a designer, his numbers are out to lunch. Take the Starke for example, 4 triple 20" guns would be in excess of 3k tons each, 8 dual 15" guns would be 1500 tons each. 24,000 tons of major gun armament on a 100k ton displacement isnt going to leave much displacement for armour or engines. Most battleships use 30-40% of their total displacement for belt, deck, splinter deck and turret face armour, a displacement of 130k tons or more is more likely. To move 130k tons at 30 knots would require a massive amount of horsepower. For example, it took 200,000 ish horsepower to get the Iowas (4k tons of engines) to 30 knots, 25% or more hp for them to reach 33 knots. Sounds normal for WoWS, then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriegerfaust Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 The Assertor-class battleship by mightyeagle2091 appears to be completely fictional, the same goes for the subclass battleship, the Aggressor. https://www.deviantart.com/mightyeagle2091/art/Assertor-class-battleship-952076926 https://www.deviantart.com/mightyeagle2091/art/Aggressor-Subclass-battleship-Assertor-class-952076998 Here again we have something by Widget-IV, a hybrid conversion of HMS Nelson which surely would be popular with WoWS players. Seems to be very much 'work in progress' at this stage. https://www.deviantart.com/widget-iv/art/HMS-Nelson-Hybrid-WIP-No-7-Deck-Edges-952818673 There was a real historical French armored cruiser Ernest Renan. The image linked below appears to be a 1937 fantasy refit for this cruiser. Public domain Author unknown Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_cruiser_Ernest_Renan Ernest Renan 1937 The historical Victor Hugo was a French Léon Gambetta class armored cruiser. The image link will show a 1941 Victor Hugo, which definitely isn't a refit but some fictional battlecruiser design. License ouverte (c) Opérateur H (code armée) mai 1916 - Govino - Médiathèque de l'architecture et du patrimoine Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_cruiser_Victor_Hugo Victor Hugo 1941 On Reddit, byt WarshipPorn, a fictional Soviet influenced cruiser design. No general characteristics or information on armament provided. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fo5mtl2u0gnx41.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dcdb0ae2fed9cbd8bb368bd7cf7d7cc9c58018fd6 By jupiter_astrofighter, a WoWS tier 8 French battleship design, in preliminary stages yet with not many details provided. https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/lc56i2/mn_danton_richelieu_preliminary_design/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArIskandir Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 2/17/2024 at 5:47 PM, kriegerfaust said: Is this design thing for real? ... or is it just the machinations of the artist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriegerfaust Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Public domain Unknown derivative work - Archives of the Kure Maritime Museum Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Yamato Here we have some artist's renditions of Japanese super battleship designs. One of them gives the name of the author as okutama21991. It appears that they are all by the same author. "Kikuo-Fujimoto" https://i.pinimg.com/736x/eb/8b/62/eb8b6248030865856d12f32ed10579c1.jpg "Izumi" https://cdn.donmai.us/sample/4d/5c/__original_drawn_by_okutama_tarou__sample-4d5c93d860f4053347f470d4eb815993.jpg "Yamato-class" https://cdn.donmai.us/sample/06/aa/__original_drawn_by_okutama_tarou__sample-06aacdabdc64ae61174d844fd8dd6d10.jpg "G-15 carrier" https://skeb.jp/@okutama21991/works/7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 41 minutes ago, ArIskandir said: Is this design thing for real? ... or is it just the machinations of the artist? I suppose this is the real thing, for comparison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_cruiser_Ernest_Renan That makes what the artists has drawn a fantasy refit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 2/17/2024 at 6:41 PM, kriegerfaust said: my guess the artists imagination Oh comes in handy if you ever want to shoot at your own superstructure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kriegerfaust Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 Several designs without any additional data. Now, USS Louisiana (BB-71) would have been one of the cancelled Montana-class US Navy battleships. Public domain Author unknown (Photo # USN 1144964, courtesy of the U.S. Naval Historical Center) Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana-class_battleship#USS_Louisiana_(BB-71) Here, though, we have some other design for what is a fictional USS Louisiana. "USS Louisiana" A fictional Helendorf-class battlecruiser. "Helendorf" A fictional Hindenburg-class heavy cruiser. "Hindenburg" Unidentified cruiser design. "Cruiser" An unknown Brazilian battleship design. "Brazilian battleship" Unidentified Royal Navy battleship design variations. "Royal Navy battleships" An unknown battleship design. "Unknown battleship" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ensign Cthulhu Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said: A pattern my wife and I have both noticed with Bing is that it can sometimes screw up disastrously when it comes to any form of printed words, scrambling the letters, the grammar, or sometimes both - thereby ruining an otherwise perfect image. Edited February 19 by Ensign Cthulhu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral_Karasu Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Just now, Ensign Cthulhu said: A pattern my wife and I have both noticed with Bing is that it can sometimes screw up disastrously when it comes to any form of printed words, scrambling the letters, the grammar, or sometimes both. I'd leave the 'sometimes' out of that. More like it's a bloody miracle if it gets something right. AI better not hope of becoming some spelling bee or something. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensign Cthulhu Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 2/17/2024 at 6:36 AM, kriegerfaust said: The first one is HMS Warspite There are reasons you can't just drop Nelson-class 16 inch triples into the trunks of 15 inch twins. I used to draw side views of things like this when I was ten, usually using greaseproof paper to "cut and paste" turrets from various ships onto others, the traced-over source being E.H.H. Archibald's "The Metal Fighting Ship in the Royal Navy, 1860-1971". Much later, when I started doing some serious reading into naval architecture, I realized why it wasn't going to work. At least the Queen Victoria design leaves plenty of room for everything, although the X turret would probably be a deck lower in a more realistic design. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snargfargle Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Ensign Cthulhu said: A pattern my wife and I have both noticed with Bing is that it can sometimes screw up disastrously when it comes to any form of printed words, scrambling the letters, the grammar, or sometimes both - thereby ruining an otherwise perfect image. The chat AI generally uses pretty good grammar so the Image-creation AI must be using "artistic license" when portraying words as images. Me: "Describe some kittens playing in a field under an abandoned boat." Bing AI: "The sun is shining brightly on the green field, where four kittens are having the time of their lives. They chase each other around the old wooden boat, which has been left to rot for years. The boat is covered with moss and vines, and has a hole in its side. The kittens take turns peeking through the hole, or climbing on top of the boat to survey their surroundings. They pounce on each other, or on the butterflies and grasshoppers that flutter by. They roll on the grass, or curl up in the shade of the boat. They purr and meow, and look at the world with curiosity and wonder." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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