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I could only watch the first three minutes before Flamus toxicity drove me away.

For reference, if you do the triple well done in chat about someone dying...I am sending a ticket to WG for chat violations. At this point, we all know that it's an insult.

Stop pretending and own your own toxicity.

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Isn't it funny how you think theres a thing like "Sub players"?... like the average Sub player is not just a regular joe that plays the game as everyone else, trying a bit of everything... 

Am I supposed to be angry Sub play becomes more risky but not feel happy some Cruisers finally have a tool to strike back? ... it is not "Us vs Them", it's just We. 

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unfortunately, I dont think this will have that much of an effect. Any sub captain worth their name would never ever go in between islands like the player in the video because one simple reason, you can get surprised by pretty much anything .... and die.

Any decent sub captain knows how to stay in the open waters on the flanks where you have total control and can outspot pretty much everything.  

I would have loved to see Wooster, Des Moines and Petro get it Instead

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5 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

For reference, if you do the triple well done in chat about someone dying..

I would kinda  agree, except when it is their own making. Then I join the choir 14728F2B-B3A1-4254-850F-95D0D4BC5353.gif

5 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

Stop pretending and own your own toxicity.

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5 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

I could only watch the first three minutes before Flamus toxicity drove me away.

Yeah it can be too much. But you have give him, he was super enthusiastic  53EB5C0D-3B99-4A7E-8E10-0AD06C0F515D.gif 

Btw the first three minutes was like nothing compared to what came later on A48E2DD6-327E-4E69-B995-CD0955AA6217.gif

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6 hours ago, SeaQuest said:

AND I LOVE IT. 

I wouldn't be over-indulging in the schadenfreude quite yet. Subs and CVs are 'protected classes' which is code for 'high development cost, low player population.' 

As soon as the player numbers crater (and given the changes, there is reason to believe they might), the order will come from on high to 'rectify matters.' The fix to the fix might well leave us in a worse place than before...

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33 minutes ago, torino2dc said:

As soon as the player numbers crater (and given the changes, there is reason to believe they might), the order will come from on high to 'rectify matters.' The fix to the fix might well leave us in a worse place than before...

So much this...

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7 hours ago, ArIskandir said:

Isn't it funny how you think theres a thing like "Sub players"?... like the average Sub player is not just a regular joe that plays the game as everyone else, trying a bit of everything... 

Am I supposed to be angry Sub play becomes more risky but not feel happy some Cruisers finally have a tool to strike back? ... it is not "Us vs Them", it's just We. 

This.  ^^^^
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7 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

I could only watch the first three minutes before Flamus toxicity drove me away.

For reference, if you do the triple well done in chat about someone dying...I am sending a ticket to WG for chat violations. At this point, we all know that it's an insult.

Stop pretending and own your own toxicity.

Flamu is a professional troll.

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2 hours ago, torino2dc said:

I wouldn't be over-indulging in the schadenfreude quite yet. Subs and CVs are 'protected classes' which is code for 'high development cost, low player population.' 

As soon as the player numbers crater (and given the changes, there is reason to believe they might), the order will come from on high to 'rectify matters.' The fix to the fix might well leave us in a worse place than before...

If the player numbers are cratering enough due to them, they might be sacrificed to an extent. It'll be interesting to see what kind of new equilibrium WG finds for them, though I'll just say this to the idea of a 'fix to a fix' that is worse than what we started with:

That won't be an enduring result, if it's even undertaken to begin with. The fact that this change is happening at all shows there are already negative impacts for WG regarding the larger playerbase population, and in the end the bigger numbers win out.

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3 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

If that's the case, certain WG staff can be painted with the same brush...

Flamu has relied on clickbait to get views ever since he was thrown out of the CC program.

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5 minutes ago, Zaydin said:

Flamu has relied on clickbait to get views ever since he was thrown out of the CC program.

WG has relied on bait and switch for early ship release for a few years now...

 

Time for a Flamu shot.

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11 hours ago, ArIskandir said:

Isn't it funny how you think theres a thing like "Sub players"?... like the average Sub player is not just a regular joe that plays the game as everyone else, trying a bit of everything... 

Am I supposed to be angry Sub play becomes more risky but not feel happy some Cruisers finally have a tool to strike back? ... it is not "Us vs Them", it's just We. 

TBF, I see some people who are sub players, with up to or more than half of their account games in subs. These of course, are relatively new accounts without a lot of total games. I also see players whose recent activity in WSN is largely subs, so these folks do exist. 

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3 hours ago, MnemonScarlet said:

If the player numbers are cratering enough due to them, they might be sacrificed to an extent. It'll be interesting to see what kind of new equilibrium WG finds for them, though I'll just say this to the idea of a 'fix to a fix' that is worse than what we started with:

That won't be an enduring result, if it's even undertaken to begin with. The fact that this change is happening at all shows there are already negative impacts for WG regarding the larger playerbase population, and in the end the bigger numbers win out.

This Right Here. 

see also: wotapi. 

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5 hours ago, Pugilistic said:

This Right Here. 

see also: wotapi. 

My curiosity led me to this search-engine result.
 

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Oct 4, 2022 Description This package will extract data from the Wargaming World of Tanks API. Currently, this works only for the PC version with the rest of the platforms to be implemented in future iterations. The package will require the ...

 

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I don't this affects the 30% winrate submarine player much, being that he typically just spams pings from maxrange. His enjoyment, whatever it is, should be the same.

Also cruisers are pretty terrible generally and these ships (Venezia Yodo Zao) aren't exactly powerhouses or popular.

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I really dont think this will change much, its still very few ships getting this gimmick as i remember it.

And if its gets this powerfull then it will get nerfed so it does absolutely nothing.

The thing is, WG is trying to fix the things brooken with the subs, but as i see it they will fail once again. In the hands of any half desent subcaptain the sub will most likely never be spotted unless they shotgun someone, they will (as i remember) get even more manourveble under water, some (most) ships gets a small buff for the ASW strikes, but with lower damage, and a few ships gets ignored.

WG really dont have a clue how to fix it, fact is (my opinion) Subs are even more hated then CV`s, and none off all this will change nothing. But WG was warned via the forum, feedback and most CC`s saying please dont introduce them, but they did not listen and now they (we) are stuck with a class not really fitting In.

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Personally, I welcome giving more utility to Cruisers, which I think have been the most slighted shiptype in the game since Launch.  The removal of their role as AA escort really left them without much to do on a team except try not to get targeted by Battleships.  

 

At the same time, I look on these changes the same way I looked at the angst many players have towards Subs.  The good players will incorporate the changes into their gameplay and continue on while those who are not so good players will complain and stomp their feet and refuse to accept the additions to the game.  The good Sub players will simply not close with the enemy and drop torpedoes from range when they see these Cruisers on the other side, while their team will cry about them not spotting for them.  Well, them's the breaks for complaining and pushing for Subs to not shotgun.

 

Cest la vie.

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Zaydin said:

Flamu has relied on clickbait to get views ever since he was thrown out of the CC program.

yeah and now his anger is against WG and insulting them. But there is no reason to insiult bad players in live stream, like you are a God and everybody else are idiots

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Only a few tier 10 cruisers get this new radar to sniff out submarines. What about lower tier cruisers and what about battleships? Battleships need it even more than cruisers. I have been sunk 3 times already by a sub while playing a battleship in the current ranked battle season but not once while playing a cruiser even though I have played cruisers more often.

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