Seasoned Commanders and Ship Type

[SleepySalmon]

I have picked up several seasoned commanders from the Armory and I would like to know which ship type suits them.

The Suzukis are good on DDs, but what about CAs? I figured they all could benefit from SE.

And what about the Jutland brothers now with the buff to Consumable Specialist? I have one currently on a DD.

[Admiral_Karasu]

No clue currently, but take note of the fairly extensive captain skill changes in this update.

[Wolfswetpaws]

6 hours ago, SleepySalmon said:

I have picked up several seasoned commanders from the Armory and I would like to know which ship type suits them.

The Suzukis are good on DDs, but what about CAs? I figured they all could benefit from SE.

And what about the Jutland brothers now with the buff to Consumable Specialist? I have one currently on a DD.

World of Warships wiki.
Commander  
Special Commanders.  https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Special_Commanders
 

[Ensign Cthulhu]

6 hours ago, SleepySalmon said:

The Suzukis are good on DDs, but what about CAs?

I reserve Survivability Expert for destroyers (because they have so little HP to start with) and carriers (because the aircraft need all the HP they can get). So the coal Suzuki got bought to drive my Hakuryu.

6 hours ago, SleepySalmon said:

And what about the Jutland brothers now with the buff to Consumable Specialist?

The von Jutland Brothers' special skill is VIGILANCE, not Consumables Specialist. The Dunkirk brothers have Consumables Enhancement, for increased active time. 

[CFagan_1987]

8 hours ago, SleepySalmon said:

I have picked up several seasoned commanders from the Armory and I would like to know which ship type suits them.

The Suzukis are good on DDs, but what about CAs? I figured they all could benefit from SE.

And what about the Jutland brothers now with the buff to Consumable Specialist? I have one currently on a DD.

I have Franz von Jutland as a dedicated captain on my Mainz. His vigilance perk stacks well with German hydro.

Edited November 12, 2023 by CFagan_1987

[SleepySalmon]

2 hours ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

World of Warships wiki.
Commander  
Special Commanders.  https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Special_Commanders
 

The wiki doesn't say which ship type goes best for each commander, hence why I ask.

 

2 hours ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

I reserve Survivability Expert for destroyers (because they have so little HP to start with) and carriers (because the aircraft need all the HP they can get). So the coal Suzuki got bought to drive my Hakuryu.

The von Jutland Brothers' special skill is VIGILANCE, not Consumables Specialist. The Dunkirk brothers have Consumables Enhancement, for increased active time. 

 

[Wolfswetpaws]

13 minutes ago, SleepySalmon said:

The wiki doesn't say which ship type goes best for each commander, hence why I ask.

I'm not sure if you're using a phone, a tablet, or a Personal Computer.
But, you may have to "scroll down" and look at the entries for each Commander, and then look at what their enhanced abilities (if any) are.

At the bottom of the linked page that I provided earlier is a link which segues to this article from 2020.
https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/game-guides/all-about-commanders/

I had estimated that you would be able to discover everything you needed, once you were provided with "where to look".  🙂 

[Nevermore135]

1 hour ago, CFagan_1987 said:

I have Franz von Jutland as a dedicated captain on my Mainz. His vigilance perk stacks well with German hydro.

Vigilance has been a BB-exclusive skill since the skill rework.

The Jutland brothers’ enhanced skills are:

DD: Consumables Specialist (1pt, -10% consumable cooldown)

Cruiser: Consumable Specialist (same as the DD version)

BB: Consumable Specialist (once again, identical to the DD and cruiser version) and Vigilance (2pts, +35% torpedo acquisition range, +7% torpedo damage reduction)

 

Edited November 12, 2023 by Nevermore135

[Ensign Cthulhu]

2 hours ago, SleepySalmon said:

The wiki doesn't say which ship type goes best for each commander, hence why I ask.

 

 

Well you'll have to forgive me for my incomplete information, and accept my thanks for correcting me, because I did actually attempt to check and this is what I saw in the Armory:

 

[Project45_Opytny]

2 hours ago, Nevermore135 said:

Vigilance has been a BB-exclusive skill since the skill rework.

The Jutland brothers’ enhanced skills are:

DD: Consumables Specialist (1pt, -10% consumable cooldown)

Cruiser: Consumable Specialist (same as the DD version)

BB: Consumable Specialist (once again, identical to the DD and cruiser version) and Vigilance (2pts, +35% torpedo acquisition range, +7% torpedo damage reduction)

 

There has been complaints before that the commander skill rework has rendered von Jutland brothers barely better than ordinary commanders.

Maybe the reworked Consumable Specialist skill would remedy this. I have got one of the brothers before and assigned him to Gneisenau, the only instance I think that Vigilance remains viable (acceptable turret traverse and no need of IFHE).

[SleepySalmon]

5 hours ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

I'm not sure if you're using a phone, a tablet, or a Personal Computer.
But, you may have to "scroll down" and look at the entries for each Commander, and then look at what their enhanced abilities (if any) are.

At the bottom of the linked page that I provided earlier is a link which segues to this article from 2020.
https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/game-guides/all-about-commanders/

I had estimated that you would be able to discover everything you needed, once you were provided with "where to look".  🙂 

I just would like to know what are other players' thoughts.

[CFagan_1987]

6 hours ago, Nevermore135 said:

Vigilance has been a BB-exclusive skill since the skill rework.

The Jutland brothers’ enhanced skills are:

DD: Consumables Specialist (1pt, -10% consumable cooldown)

Cruiser: Consumable Specialist (same as the DD version)

BB: Consumable Specialist (once again, identical to the DD and cruiser version) and Vigilance (2pts, +35% torpedo acquisition range, +7% torpedo damage reduction)

 

Thanks for the correction! I guess I'll switch Franz to the German battlecruiser line when I start that and find someone else for the Mainz. Maybe I'll use Erich Bey (he comes as 10 pointer IIRC) if I get him during the Holiday event.

[Nevermore135]

11 minutes ago, CFagan_1987 said:

Thanks for the correction! I guess I'll switch Franz to the German battlecruiser line when I start that and find someone else for the Mainz. Maybe I'll use Erich Bey (he comes as 10 pointer IIRC) if I get him during the Holiday event.

If you have Lutjens, he’s a good fit for Mainz. It’s very easy to activate his main battery talent to increase your ROF.

Edited November 12, 2023 by Nevermore135

[Wolfswetpaws]

1 hour ago, SleepySalmon said:

I just would like to know what are other players' thoughts.

That is a "horse of a different color" and a different question.

[tfcas119]

The Suzukis (Japanese) are decent for DDs and Cruisers due to the buffed SE.

the Does are decent in US CAs and BBs due to buffed PT and EM, but are overshadowed by Halsey.

Dunkirks (British) are kind of good anywhere.

Don't really bother with the Jutlands, especially if you have Lutjens.

The Rong Brothers (Asian) are actually effective on all Pan Asian ships.

De Ruyter/Jannssen are ok, but not necessary for Dutch cruisers.

The Honores (French) are the best seasoned captains, as buffing EM and AR works on almost every French ship. These guys arguably are better than Aboyneau on every ship except maybe Colbert.

Edit: Zamnensky (Soviet) are probably better than Kunetsov if you don't pop his Will to Victory every game.

Edited November 12, 2023 by tfcas119

[CFagan_1987]

20 minutes ago, Nevermore135 said:

If you have Lutjens, he’s a good fit for Mainz. It’s very easy to activate his main battery talent to increase your ROF.

Good suggestion, unfortunately Lutjens is assigned as my "mainline" German battleship captain as I like his boosted secondary range perk. More pew pew from the secondary battery is always a good thing!

[Nevermore135]

14 minutes ago, CFagan_1987 said:

Good suggestion, unfortunately Lutjens is assigned as my "mainline" German battleship captain as I like his boosted secondary range perk. More pew pew from the secondary battery is always a good thing!

Mainz is a premium ship, so you can set his cruiser skills up for Mainz and switch him over and back without penalty.

Edited November 13, 2023 by Nevermore135

[Ensign Cthulhu]

1 hour ago, tfcas119 said:

the Does are decent in US CAs and BBs due to buffed PT and EM, but are overshadowed by Halsey.

Depends on how often you get Confederate and Double Strike, his talent triggers. As a mostly co-op player and being mediocre in randoms, that's basically never. The one good thing about him above John Doe is that he came with 15 points instead of 10. Getting him to 21 is one of my ambitions for 2024, but he's competing for priority with quite a few others.

[SleepySalmon]

1 hour ago, tfcas119 said:

Don't really bother with the Jutlands, especially if you have Lutjens.

I don't have Lutjens, so I should just put the Jutlands into whatever line I want to grind?