Ton for ton too many guns - Add your own over gunned warships (Please no Monitors and motor torpedo boats)

[kriegerfaust]

Displacement	615 long tons (625 t)
Length	200.8 ft (61.2 m)
Beam	33.1 ft (10.1 m)
Draft	8.5 ft (2.6 m)
Propulsion	Poole geared steam turbine, 2,500 shp (1,864 kW) 1 screw
Speed	18.32 knots (33.93 km/h; 21.08 mph)
Complement	5 officers, 56 men
Armament	2 × 4"/50 caliber guns 1 × 3"/50 caliber gun 2 × .50 caliber(12.7 mm) machine guns 1 × Y gun (Eagles 4 through 7 only)

 

Edited November 7, 2023 by kriegerfaust

[GMMF]

obligatory Engels appearance

[invicta2012]

7 minutes ago, GMMF said:

obligatory Engels appearance

What *is* that?

 

The USS Hull is a favourite here: http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_8-55_mk71_Hull_side_pic.jpg - the only destroyer ever to carry an 8 inch gun. 

 

But... everything pales in comparison to Okhotnik, doesn't it?

 

 

Edited November 7, 2023 by invicta2012

[GMMF]

13 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

What *is* that?

Orfey-class destroyer - Wikipedia
12inch recoilless rifle

[pepe_trueno]

HMS Warrior

Class and typeWarrior-class armoured frigate

Displacement: 9,137 long tons (9,284 t)

Speed: 14 knots (26 km/h; 16 mph)

 

Armament

26 × Smoothbore muzzle-loading 68-pdr (206 mm) guns

10 × Rifled breechloading 110-pdr (178 mm) guns

4 × Rifled breechloading 40-pdr (121 mm) guns

Armour

Belt: 4.5 in (114 mm)

Bulkheads: 4.5 in (114 mm)

[Project45_Opytny]

It surprises me no one has even mentioned Chidori-class torpedo boat and Hatsuharu-class destroyer.

[Andrewbassg]

Courageous class light...hkhmm..." battle" cruisers. 2x1 (!!)  15'guns.

 

 

Later known as HMS Furious.

 

"Please no Monitors" Why?

Edited November 8, 2023 by Andrewbassg

[Andrewbassg]

Grtivita class armored gunboat of the Romanian Navy

Displacing 322 tonnes and with a draft of only 1.3 metres, this class of vessel measures 44.5 metres long with a beam of 8 metres.

Armament:  1 x  100 mm gun

                     1 x AK - 130 

                    2 x ZPU-4  (four barreled) 14.5 HMG

                    2 x 1 TAB-77  turret  each with 1 x 14.5 mm HMG and 1 x 7.62 mm LMG

                    2 x 40 barrelled 122mm MLRS

Not a monitor. 

[ApocalypseMeeow]

4 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

Courageous class light...hkhmm..." battle" cruisers. 2x1 (!!)  15'guns.

 

 

Later known as HMS Furious.

 

"Please no Monitors" Why?

Courageous-Class had 2 x 2 15".

Furious (as a half sister) 2 x 1 18".

[Andrewbassg]

55 minutes ago, ApocalypseMeeow said:

Courageous-Class had 2 x 2 15".

Furious (as a half sister) 2 x 1 18".

Ahh ...... ofc, you are right.

 I will leave it as is. Don't like to edit out mistakes.

[kriegerfaust]

 

[invicta2012]

Furious is another good example of a completely overgunned ship. They could barely keep the ship together after firing the main guns, she was so lightly built. Even her sisters could barely cope, even with their smaller 15 inch guns. 

Other well known overgunned ships include the French submarine Surcouf (twin 8 inch guns)

 

 

(from the Wikipedia page, By Unknown author - Morze, nr.6/1936 [1], Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=11495874)

 

and the RN M Class with a big ol 12 inch gun

 

 

[Slammer58]

Swedish ship Vasa.  She sank after sailing roughly 1,300 m (1,400 yd) into her maiden voyage on 10 August 1628.  Unstable, poorly designed and too many guns (twice the number of her original design).

https://allthatsinteresting.com/vasa-ship

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship)

 

 

Edited November 8, 2023 by Slammer58

[Chysagon]

Japanese battleship Mikasa.

[Pugilistic]

USS Ohio. When the first big US 44-gun frigates were in service, they often carried over 50 guns with ease, and that with long 24-pounders on the gun deck when 18's were usual in other navies. So when the US started building 74's, its no surprise that they stretched the rating. This reached its apogee with Ohio, a 74 that carried 102 guns with ease at one point, and was marveled at as a handsome, fast and weatherly sailor. We did also build Pennsylvania, a 130, but she was never actually deployed. 

[Pugilistic]

USSR Kara class. On 8200 tons standard, these carried 2 x quad SS-N-14 launchers, 2 x twin SA-N-3 SAM launchers, a pair of twin 76mm guns, 4 x six barrel 30mm AK-630 guns, 2 quintuple torpedo tubes, 4 x RBU ASW rocket launchers of two types, and an ASW helicopter. A quart in a pint pot. 

[HogHammer]

1 hour ago, Pugilistic said:

USSR Kara class. On 8200 tons standard, these carried 2 x quad SS-N-14 launchers, 2 x twin SA-N-3 SAM launchers, a pair of twin 76mm guns, 4 x six barrel 30mm AK-630 guns, 2 quintuple torpedo tubes, 4 x RBU ASW rocket launchers of two types, and an ASW helicopter. A quart in a pint pot. 

Okay, the USSR Kara class is fitting for World of Warships 2.0 🤣.

[Asym]

On 11/7/2023 at 10:55 PM, Andrewbassg said:

Grtivita class armored gunboat of the Romanian Navy

Displacing 322 tonnes and with a draft of only 1.3 metres, this class of vessel measures 44.5 metres long with a beam of 8 metres.

Armament:  1 x  100 mm gun

                     1 x AK - 130 

                    2 x ZPU-4  (four barreled) 14.5 HMG

                    2 x 1 TAB-77  turret  each with 1 x 14.5 mm HMG and 1 x 7.62 mm LMG

                    2 x 40 barrelled 122mm MLRS

Not a monitor. 

OMG !  A freaking barge with a tank turret !!!  I WANT, I WANT.....   Breath in, breath out....  Oh please GoD, let the game have this barge...errr.....armored gun boat....

or, the Elco PT boat.....with armored hull this time around.....   PLEASE !@  🤣

[Justin_Simpleton]

17 minutes ago, Asym said:

OMG !  A freaking barge with a tank turret !!!  I WANT, I WANT.....   Breath in, breath out....  Oh please GoD, let the game have this barge...errr.....armored gun boat....

or, the Elco PT boat.....with armored hull this time around.....   PLEASE !@  🤣

Nope. You can't have it.

[kriegerfaust]

 

Name:	RATANAKOSINDRA
Type:	Gunboat
Keel:	29/09/1924
Launched:	21/04/1925
Completed:	10/08/1925
Builder:	Armstrong, Whitworth & Co Ltd
Yard:	High Walker
Yard Number:	872a
Dimensions:	1000disp, 160.0 x 37.0 x 10.7(draft)ft
Engines:	2 x VT3cyl (12, 18 & 32 x 22ins), 820ihp
Engines by:	Hawthorn Leslie Ltd, Newcastle
Propulsion:	2 x Screws, 12.0knots
Construction:	Steel
Armament:	2 x 1 x 6.0ins, 4 x 1 x 3.0ins guns
History:
10/08/1925	Government of Thailand
1968	Deleted
Comments:	1914: Laid down at Elswick in 1914, but taken apart to free the berth.
	1924: Re-ordered and transferred to the High Walker yard
	1968: Probably broken up

 

Above photo copyright of The Shipbuilder

Above profile copyright of Dr Dan Saranga

 

 

Above profile copyright of Dr Dan Sara

 

Edited November 9, 2023 by kriegerfaust

[Nevermore135]

I’m surprised the Atlanta-class hasn’t been brought up. The ships were top-heavy and plagued by stability issues that were never fully addressed.

[Boomer625]

I would add USS St Louis (C-20), essentially a modern ship of the line that would have dominated the days of sail with 14 152mms, 18 76 mm, 12 47mm (saluting guns but they could be used as weapons i believe), and 9 37mm 

Despite with so many guns, I dont recall St Louis had a many stability issues due to the weight

 

very fun to play in game as well, maybe should try a secondary build on it 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_St._Louis_(C-20)

Edited November 10, 2023 by Boomer625

[invicta2012]

10 hours ago, kriegerfaust said:

Name: RATANAKOSINDRA Type: Gunboat Keel: 29/09/1924 Launched: 21/04/1925 Completed: 10/08/1925 Builder: Armstrong, Whitworth & Co Ltd

That is a fabulous ship. The Compact Cruiser is a genre WowS should explore more fully. See also: French Pre-Dreadnoughts, Pre-Pre-Dreadnought Turret Ships, Armoured Paddle Steamers, assorted gunboats. Hilarious.

[kriegerfaust]

Fly-class gunboat

Class overview
Name	Fly class
Builders	Yarrow Shipbuilders
Operators	Royal Navy (1915–1918) British Army (1918–1924)
In service	1915–1924
Completed	16
Lost	3
Retired	13
General characteristics
Type	River gunboat[1]
Displacement	98 long tons (100 t)
Length	126 ft (38 m)
Beam	20 ft (6.1 m)
Draught	2 ft (0.61 m)
Propulsion	1 shaft VTE, single yarrow type mixed firing boiler, 175 ihp (130 kW)
Speed	9.5 kn (10.9 mph; 17.6 km/h)
Complement	22
Armament	1 × 4-inch (102-mm) gun 1 × 12-pounder (76-mm) gun 1 × 6-pounder (57-mm) gun (some) 1 × 3-pounder (47-mm) gun 1 × 2-pounder (40-mm) pom-pom 4 or 5 machine-guns

 

 

Edited November 10, 2023 by kriegerfaust