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[tfcas119]

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The balancing black hole of 7km hydro on a DD, 155 Mogami with reload booster, the next dockyard ship, and WG took some vodka and summoned some demons to make Barbiano

[Nevermore135]

Not sure how I feel about Suyuza. I expected a premium 155mm Mogami to eventually make an appearance, but I honestly expected it to be tier VIII and accompany the removal of the tech tree option as an easy (but appreciated by many) cash grab. This ship will also further highlight how hilariously bad Takahashi is at tier IX. 😆. I think my final impression will come down to how it is made available - if she’s a “standard” coal/steel tier IX it won’t be too bad, but I have a sinking suspicion she will be a doubloon-only ship locked behind some event… 

Tier IX Blucher is… a thing. I guess we’ll finally have the entire Hipper-class in game (Yay?). It might work at the tier with all the gimmicks, but to me it just seems strange that the least-accomplished and most infamous ship of the class is being implemented in-game as the most powerful. I’d always imagined she would be given the “IJN” treatment and implemented a tier lower (VII) with nerfed stats.

Z-57 with 7km hydro is completely unsurprising considering the change recently made to the existing German tier XIs.

I second the OP’s sentiment that somebody broke into the old Lesta vodka store to dream up that Italian DD.

I would argue that both cruisers and the DD (to me this screams mid-tier Italian cruiser a la Atlanta) are over-tiered. It’s not surprising considering more higher-tier releases is the pattern of late, but it’s still slightly disappointing…

[tfcas119]

47 minutes ago, Nevermore135 said:

Not sure how I feel about Suyuza. I expected a premium 155mm Mogami to eventually make an appearance, but I honestly expected it to be tier VIII and accompany the removal of the tech tree option as an easy (but appreciated by many) cash grab. This ship will also further highlight how hilariously bad Takahashi is at tier IX. 😆. I think my final impression will come down to how it is made available - if she’s a “standard” coal/steel tier IX it won’t be too bad, but I have a sinking suspicion she will be a doubloon-only ship locked behind some event… 

Tier IX Blucher is… a thing. I guess we’ll finally have the entire Hipper-class in game (Yay?). It might work at the tier with all the gimmicks, but to me it just seems strange that the least-accomplished and most infamous ship of the class is being implemented in-game as the most powerful. I’d always imagined she would be given the “IJN” treatment and implemented a tier lower (VII) with nerfed stats.

Z-57 with 7km hydro is completely unsurprising considering the change recently made to the existing German tier XIs.

I second the OP’s sentiment that somebody broke into the old Lesta vodka store to dream up that Italian DD.

I would argue that both cruisers and the DD (to me this screams mid-tier Italian cruiser a la Atlanta) are over-tiered. It’s not surprising considering more higher-tier releases is the pattern of late, but it’s still slightly disappointing…

155 mogami has the fifth highest DPM among T8 and 9 cruisers. Suyuza has 8% more base which would put her around 250, only behind Sejong, plus a reload booster. She will definitely be far scarier to face compared to Takahashi or Azuma

Blucher right now looks like she'll be amazing in ops, but maybe not so in anything else.

Z-57 will be nightmarish to balance.

[tm63au]

Oh come on WG not one ship lower than Tier VII in this round of " Cough Cough " dazzling ships " Cough Cough " and Blucher at Tier IX sure don't get me wrong I'm all for the class but come on they couldn't think of  a better way to bring this into the game than Tier IX trickery.

HMS Seal would this qualify as a Tier X is it big enough ?

 

 

Doesn't look the same ship, close but not the same, more tom foolery by WG 
 

Hey WG will you create a special button on the Subs German opponents ships that allows him to " capture HMS Seal " as a gimmick !

WG are full of it again

[Daniel_Allan_Clark]

For an AA screening ship, Barbiano has terrible AA...

😛

[Itwastuesday]

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/closed-test-141-new-ships

Super Z with +1 turret, 7km hydro and more better torps. Z52 is already pretty good, my prediction is that this is overpowered and will be the king of superdestroyers. 

T9 reloadbooster 155mm Mogami. We already have Yodo line? But ok. High dpm even without booster. Whatever?

Blucher, T9 Hipper with improved everything AP designed to screw other cruisers. Again one of these. Why. Frickin' WG and their cruiser hate. 

Alberico de Barbiano, TX Italian sap-only 16 gun no torpedoes destroyer with one salvo burst for higher pen and a slight dpm dip. Looks really funny. Can't quite see turret layout but looks like some are on the sides. Depending on how many it can fire to one side, this would have either the highest SAP dpm with either mode, or, if it can fire say 10, it would have less than Regolo and be a strictly worse regolo. Now I would like to think WG wouldn't sabotage the selling point itself, but they have done so before many times. In any case, this is another of these 'it' s a cruiser but we put it in a DD slot so it doesn't have to suffer citadel' hax, which I find quite silly. Could mean some armor though. Probably want this ship. Also 8 flak, but 4.6 range. 

And some t7 cruiser Gambina and sub model for seals. 

Edited January 3 by Itwastuesday

[kriegerfaust]

Alberico de Barbiano, the only thing destroyer about it is the armor

Decks: 20 mm (0.79 in) Belt: 24 mm (0.94 in) Turrets: 23 mm (0.91 in) Tower: 40 mm (1.6 in)

have they lost their minds, 

Displacement	6,570 tonnes (6,470 long tons) standard 6,954 tonnes (6,844 long tons) full load
Length	169.3 m (555 ft)

25 percent wider and nearly a third longer than a gearing, i guess the rule is anything to avoid adding missiles

Length	390.5 ft (119.0 m)
Beam	40.9 ft (12.5 m)
Draft	14.3 ft (4.4 m)

[Dareios]

my thoughts and speculations, in the few days I am allowed such things.

 

Z57 - overhyped. most of the super DDs have worse agility compared to the TX counterparts. I don't think this will brawl well even with extra gun. No funny button. yes, it can for now stealth hydro, but how many situations arise where 7km hydro will win a cap and 6km wont (maybe trolling a lo-yang or something). personally Id give it a standard 6km hydro and a funny button that gives it a 20% range extension to hydro for 1 minute. I think this will end out as a tier 10.5 like clauswitz.

Suzuya - uptiered mogami with heal and MGRB. doesnt fill any niche that doesnt have something better in it. Will set many things afire with range mod and back line kiting, but so do half the other cruisers. expect horrible torp angles. if its not bottom tier and late game it will be more powerful, and god help a DD or light cruiser that bumbles into it. However it needs about half broadside to get more than 2 turrets on line, and even so its a 25mm cruiser at TX/Super matchmaking and there's a lot of things there that will love a giant floating citadel that is traditionally what IJN cruisers are, and will either overmatch or punish gamer turns harshly.

Blucher - 4x2 203s with 10s reload. I don't care what dispersion or pen angles it has, that's trash tier dpm at tier 9. Cant even say its a hipper with heal, as they fixed that years back. standard t8 german cruiser things, but at least access to slot 6 module. This is a meh-ship, and as next dockyard gets the over-rated FOMO port queen award.

Alberico - what RM boffin decided to inhale powdered sopressa. I am not looking forward to this. worst concealment of any destroyer. There's BBs that turn better. At least it has smoke, but without torps that smoke is limited to 'charge DD or cruiser that doesn't have torps' or 'catching too much fire time to nope out'. SAP only means it cant catch a cruiser broadside and go citadel hunting, nor can it pretend to be a groningen and set fires. I think its sole role will be ranged throttle juking and going blah=blah-blah at large targets and totally wasting a useful DD slot on the team. It had better remain mobile too, as without fire or torps anything wth armour and HP will just run over it. Technically a 13 gun broadside, but looking at the position of the central wing turrets that would require almost full broad, so in practice about an 11 gun broadside.

Gambria - a fiji but with HE. or a belfast without radar. eh. will possibly excite only three people on crate day after they have run out of possums to throw empties at. Xmas box filler ship.

Seal - yeah, I may have heard some things.. so.. nope. no comment. may or may not come with a commander.

Edited January 3 by Dareios

[Yedwy]

While I am as a general rule not a fan of making T8 techtrees (or premiums for that matter) T9 premiums (or making it a tier higher in general) by adding heal and slot 6 and maybee an odd tweak of stats or a new gadget but in case of Mogami and Hipper I say its about damn time thats the way they should have made them from the start, only worthwhile “conversion” of that kind to date was imho jean bart

Edited January 3 by Yedwy

[Admiral_Karasu]

Merged and moved under Game News.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

7 hours ago, Itwastuesday said:

T9 reloadbooster 155mm Mogami. We already have Yodo line? But ok.

I think there are a lot of people who were hoping for the IJN CA line to include Mogami splitting out as a premium, and her successor exclusively getting the 203mm option that all four Mogamis actually took to war. Suzuya is that, but now that we have a precedent for T8 coal ships, I don't understand why they didn't just leave her at Tier 8 as a fully-buffed premium B-Hull, B-GFCS 155mm Mogami. Perhaps most of the work was done before that precedent was set, and they didn't want to waste it.

[Itwastuesday]

3 hours ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

I think there are a lot of people who were hoping for the IJN CA line to include Mogami splitting out as a premium, and her successor exclusively getting the 203mm option that all four Mogamis actually took to war. Suzuya is that, but now that we have a precedent for T8 coal ships, I don't understand why they didn't just leave her at Tier 8 as a fully-buffed premium B-Hull, B-GFCS 155mm Mogami. Perhaps most of the work was done before that precedent was set, and they didn't want to waste it.

Maybe, never occurred to me though. Well, maybe I was hoping for a line with good DPM like Mogami and not what we got, but eh.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

35 minutes ago, Itwastuesday said:

a line with good DPM like Mogami

Opinion: Mogami and Shimanto (chosen because she's at the same tier in the tech tree) are polar opposites.

Mogami has good DPM with turrets that turn like epileptic snails on valium, with torpedo arcs that are good for almost nothing except dumping on pursuers.

Shimanto has excellent torpedo arcs by comparison and the best turret rotation (including 360 degree arcs on some mounts) of any cruiser at tier outside of Tiger 59, but is lumbered with substandard DPM as her balancing factor. Her AA also has pretty good reach, also probably the best at tier for a cruiser, and is quite potent when you take DFAA (as the bots always do).

If you gave Shimanto Mogami's DPM with no other changes, you might actually make her grossly overpowered. I'm sure there's a happy medium, but we'll see to what extent Suzuya manages to find it when she's finally released, and whether this will feed back to potential changes in the CL line. 

Edited January 3 by Ensign Cthulhu

[Schnitchelkid01_]

They took down the devblog? Maybe it got released too early or something lmao

[Wolfswetpaws]

19 minutes ago, Schnitchelkid01_ said:

They took down the devblog? Maybe it got released too early or something lmao

Might have changed something, and then changed the internet address in the process?

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/closed-test-141-new-ships-44191  

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/balance-changes-public-test-140-8477  

Edited January 3 by Wolfswetpaws

[OldSchoolGaming_Youtube]

 

[Kratbowl]

Barbiano looks great, want that demon xD But the whole question is in the corresponding resources. I won't be surprised at all if it's for doobs.

What's funnier for me is the moment in the very next blog post, where they wrote about the unique Dutch commander. Reddit sensibly decided that you can get either him or Taihang for free, but the original post by the devs traditionally has fairly careful wording that leaves room for interpretation. Maybe there will be something like the quests from the time of Bungo's release and you can earn points for both? 😃

[OldSchoolGaming_Youtube]

1 hour ago, Kratbowl said:

Barbiano looks great, want that demon xD But the whole question is in the corresponding resources. I won't be surprised at all if it's for doobs.

What's funnier for me is the moment in the very next blog post, where they wrote about the unique Dutch commander. Reddit sensibly decided that you can get either him or Taihang for free, but the original post by the devs traditionally has fairly careful wording that leaves room for interpretation. Maybe there will be something like the quests from the time of Bungo's release and you can earn points for both? 😃

Yeah, I can't wait to try out my Leg mod Golden with this new Unique commander, it will be insane OP.

• 40 000 Damage - Check!
• Witherer - Check!
• 50 Bomb hits - Check!

• 40 000 Damage - Check!
• 50 Bomb hits - Check!

• 40 000 Damage - Check!
• 50 Bomb hits - Check!

• 40 000 Damage - Check!
• Witherer - Check!
• 50 Bomb hits - Check!

• 40 000 Damage - Check!
• Witherer - Check!
• 50 Bomb hits - Check!

Its gonna be interesting to see what kind of damage games I can squeeze out of this commander.

 

 

[Kratbowl]

14 minutes ago, OldSchoolGaming_Youtube said:

I can't wait to try out my Leg mod Golden with this new Unique commander

Absolutely monstrous xD. Yes, especially damage and even "Witherer" are easily achieved on Leeuw/Oranje, bombs are a bit heavier. I don't play Leeuw that often, but I really liked Oranje (Janssen is trained for both ships) and now I'm still thinking about who to put where.

I'll also need to get the Leeuw leg mod somehow.

Edited January 4 by Kratbowl

[OldSchoolGaming_Youtube]

7 minutes ago, Kratbowl said:

I'll also need to get the Leeuw leg mod somehow.

Yeah, Leg Mod turned my 120 K Damage games into 200-220 K damage games in the Golden. Imho its one of the strongest Leg Mods you could invest in.

This Captain will make this Leg Mod to be on Crack!

[Justin_Simpleton]

19 minutes ago, Kratbowl said:

I'll also need to get the Leeuw leg mod somehow.

Same here, it's on my long-long term goals list.  Only 16,110 research points to go to afford the 19,200 price.

[OldSchoolGaming_Youtube]

OverLordBou concurs.