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Howdy gang,

Any tips for when I have a teammate who is in a submarine in Asym? I lose these matches most of the time. 

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8 minutes ago, Jakeshuffle said:

Howdy gang,

Any tips for when I have a teammate who is in a submarine in Asym? I lose these matches most of the time. 

Position your Submarine so that it can fire-upon targets as they sail through a choke-point.

If your team-mates are particularly good at aiming-for and sinking the lead-ship in a pack of red-team ships, then aim for the second or third ship in the pack.

Manage your dive-time.
Seriously.

In some Asymmetric maps, there is only one Base per team.  Other maps offer 3 capture areas.
The one base per team maps are easier for a Submarine to play with.

The 'Bots instinctively "know" where a Submarine is.  They just cannot fire upon it until they can officially detect the submarine.
Plan accordingly.

Try to avoid being over-run by a push from the red-team. 
They'll force you to exhaust your dive-time and surface within detection range and send a lot of ordnance "to whom it may concern" in your general direction.

 

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28 minutes ago, Jakeshuffle said:

Howdy gang,

Any tips for when I have a teammate who is in a submarine in Asym? I lose these matches most of the time. 

A submarine is always a bad thing for the other players in the match, as it is one less ship the bots will shoot at. Same for (Torp/Smoke)DDs and CVs. Sometimes there are matches where there are only two visible ships, then it is vary hard for those. The more invisible ships on your team, the more defensively you have to play as a visible ship.

In those cases you should always have an island near you behind which you can hide.

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6 minutes ago, Kruzenstern said:

A submarine is always a bad thing for the other players in the match, as it is one less ship the bots will shoot at. Same for (Torp/Smoke)DDs and CVs. Sometimes there are matches where there are only two visible ships, then it is vary hard for those. The more invisible ships on your team, the more defensively you have to play as a visible ship.

In those cases you should always have an island near you behind which you can hide.

With respect, that's not a tip for how to play a submarine.
That's a gripe from someone who isn't playing a submarine.  🙂 

As for the "invisible" claim?  Stealthy torpedo-bote DD's are playing well when they aren't detected and are causing damage.
Isn't that undetected status while causing damage methodology also good for playing a sumbarine?

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I just thought of something. Since the bots in WoWS 'cheat' by knowing a lot they shouldn't really know... what if they can also come online and read our forum and the tips we share here?....

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Just now, Admiral_Karasu said:

I just thought of something. Since the bots in WoWS 'cheat' by knowing a lot they shouldn't really know... what if they can also come online and read our forum and the tips we share here?....

Well, I couldn't really blame them (if they did).  😉   

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9 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

I just thought of something. Since the bots in WoWS 'cheat' by knowing a lot they shouldn't really know... what if they can also come online and read our forum and the tips we share here?....

 

8 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

Well, I couldn't really blame them (if they did).  😉   

Will this be enough of a justification for the creation of a sub-forum "How to Fight Against Human Players - From a Bot's Perspective"?

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7 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

Well, I couldn't really blame them (if they did).  😉   

It's just that I again thought about those guests of hours. They aren't trying to register, because I think they know that we'd get suspicious about nics like ';Miaoulis', ';Bellingshausen' and.....';Kruzenstern'.....🤔

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1 minute ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

It's just that I again thought about those guests of hours. They aren't trying to register, because I think they know that we'd get suspicious about nics like ';Miaoulis', ';Bellingshausen' and.....';Kruzenstern'.....🤔

 🙂 

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2 hours ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

With respect, that's not a tip for how to play a submarine.

Well, I read the wording of the OP...

3 hours ago, Jakeshuffle said:

Any tips for when I have a teammate who is in a submarine in Asym? I lose these matches most of the time. 

As someone asking for advice on how to play when there is a sub on his team because he loses most of the time then.

And of course stealth boats can work, but they do make it harder for non-stealth boats. (and a lot of sub players I see know nothing at all about how to play it and either die early or don't do any damage and are even more dead weight that a bad player in any other class)

When we are in a division for asyms, we either go no stealth boat, or all stealth boats. Otherwise we are just making it harder for the non-stealth guy.

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36 minutes ago, Kruzenstern said:

Well, I read the wording of the OP...

As someone asking for advice on how to play when there is a sub on his team because he loses most of the time then.

And of course stealth boats can work, but they do make it harder for non-stealth boats. (and a lot of sub players I see know nothing at all about how to play it and either die early or don't do any damage and are even more dead weight that a bad player in any other class)

When we are in a division for asyms, we either go no stealth boat, or all stealth boats. Otherwise we are just making it harder for the non-stealth guy.

Food for thought.

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Okay seriously, folks who play subs in this mode need to uninstall.

Posted
1 hour ago, Jakeshuffle said:

Okay seriously, folks who play subs in this mode need to uninstall.

I play Submarines in the Asymmetric mode.

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1 hour ago, Jakeshuffle said:

Okay seriously, folks who play subs in this mode need to uninstall.

LOL... well I saw ONE asymmetric game-submariner that contributed but the rest have been pretty poor.   Like DDs, you can get folks that spot and torp magnificently or the ones who decide to use guns (pings for the sub) and smoke for themselves...   that doesn't usually work out well in asymmetric either.

The word is out on asymmetric for this mission set... absolutely polluted with BBs that don't quite "get" it.  Longish queues too for BBs!

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