Which do you consider more dangerous and why?

[Musket22]

- Open waters and within 10km.

BB Wisonsin with her 406mm (Big "Whiskey")

or

BB Bourgogne with her 380mm? 

[Scorpion_Raider37]

Wisky. She is extremely accurate and with the funny button, can delete you fast.

[MidnightPhoenix07]

If Whiskey’s funny button didn’t have a reload booster baked in, it might be a bit more of a toss up. But since they both have a “reload booster,” I’d also give Wisconsin an edge.

Both of them would be scary if you let them get onto your broadside, and Bourgogne actually has a heavier alpha strike and better dpm because of the extra barrels and faster reload. But Wisconsin is much more accurate, and has better per shell damage and AP penetration.

The better accuracy and overmatch (if I’m in a cruiser) is a pretty big advantage for Wisconsin. Yes it doesn’t always have a reload booster like Bourgogne and needs to charge it up, but if you can aim that better dispersion will mean more hits. And US 406 mm AP hurts when it hits. 

[MBT808]

I mean, you have to keep in mind that a Wisconsin should never be within 10km to begin with. Even with the accuracy, she is extremely thin skinned for a BB and is not equipped to be engaging in brawls. Bourgogne may not have the best secondaries, but her armor is some what better due to the presence of a turtle back and she has better tools to engage in brawls.

Wisconsin is a through and through sniper, she should always be providing second line supporting fire for the front line ships like GK, Schlieffen, or Libertad(or even Bourgogne/Republique in a pinch). being within 10km, you might kill what you're fighting, but you are taking a significant risk with the majority of cruisers being equipped with some kind of torpedoes(touching on what @MidnightPhoenix07 is saying). Is it worth taking massive amounts of focus fire in order to potentially just trade with a light cruiser like a Brisbane at the end of the day? No, its even worse if you fail to trade with the cruiser in question. Bourgogne is far more likely to guarantee a trade at minimum than a Wisconsin is in a cruiser engagement at 10km.

[Wolfswetpaws]

5 hours ago, Musket22 said:

- Open waters and within 10km.

BB Wisonsin with her 406mm (Big "Whiskey")

or

BB Bourgogne with her 380mm? 

 

1 hour ago, MBT808 said:

I mean, you have to keep in mind that a Wisconsin should never be within 10km to begin with. Even with the accuracy, she is extremely thin skinned for a BB and is not equipped to be engaging in brawls. Bourgogne may not have the best secondaries, but her armor is some what better due to the presence of a turtle back and she has better tools to engage in brawls.

Wisconsin is a through and through sniper, she should always be providing second line supporting fire for the front line ships like GK, Schlieffen, or Libertad(or even Bourgogne/Republique in a pinch). being within 10km, you might kill what you're fighting, but you are taking a significant risk with the majority of cruisers being equipped with some kind of torpedoes(touching on what @MidnightPhoenix07 is saying). Is it worth taking massive amounts of focus fire in order to potentially just trade with a light cruiser like a Brisbane at the end of the day? No, its even worse if you fail to trade with the cruiser in question. Bourgogne is far more likely to guarantee a trade at minimum than a Wisconsin is in a cruiser engagement at 10km.

From a "fighting doctrine" standpoint, I think that @MBT808 makes a good point.
The Wisconsin (like the Iowa class, in general) has a long hull that doesn't turn well and is more suited to firing from medium to long ranges.

I have zero qualms about sailing my Bourgogne into a brawl situation.
She may not be "the ideal" brawler, but at close-range her guns are in their optimal peformance envelope.

Yes, both ships have some method of improving their reload time during a battle.
So, positioning and timing (which weren't specified in the original question) will matter.

The Bourgogne has an Engine Boost consumable.
The Wisconsin has a Defensive-AA-Fire consumable, which won't be of much use against another battleship.

I think this scenario is a little vague (positioning and orientation of the ships, the status of their consumables or "funny-button", and other factors are missing).
With plenty of ocean for the ships to use for maneuvering, the ship with more speed and turning ability has a slightly greater chance to gain an advantageous position.

Bottome line?
This situation (loosely defined as it is) will depend more on the players than the ships.
Both ships can sink each other.  But who will sail their ship better?  🙂 

[Daniel_Allan_Clark]

7 hours ago, Musket22 said:

- Open waters and within 10km.

BB Wisonsin with her 406mm (Big "Whiskey")

or

BB Bourgogne with her 380mm? 

Depends more on the enemy captain than the ship he is sailing, IMO.

[Snargfargle]

5 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

Depends more on the enemy captain than the ship he is sailing, IMO.

There's a guy I see from time to time in tier X matches always driving an ARP Takao. He usually ends up with a Kraken, a Confederate, and a High Caliber.

[Wolfswetpaws]

37 minutes ago, Snargfargle said:

There's a guy I see from time to time in tier X matches always driving an ARP Takao. He usually ends up with a Kraken, a Confederate, and a High Caliber.

"Beware the man who only has one gun. He probably knows how to use it!"

[Scorpion_Raider37]

I wouldn't brawl with my Wisky. I don't have Bourgogne but I do have JB and I would definitely brawl with her anytime of the day. 😄 22 sec reload plus reload booster and jet pack booster, hell yeah!

[Itwastuesday]

More dangerous to what? If I'm a broadsiding Kurfurst, probably Bourgogne hits harder. If I'm a DD, the shell volume and reload perhaps more dangerous. If I'm anything else, Wisconsin likely hurts more. 

My experience is that the american 406 is the best battleship gun in the game for hitting citadels. Wisconsin isn a bit different to Montana IIRC, but if I was anything without a brawling turtleback I wouldn't show side to it at any range. 

[mashed68]

Within 10km Wiskys accuracy isn't a game winner. 

Buger has a better reload booster and more barrels so she probably wins. 

[Lord_Slayer]

Honestly its going to depend on positioning.

If I'm in a CA or CL and I somehow reveal a full broadside to either, I'm sunk either way.

Otherwise, to a point, the Bourgogne is a steel ship and the person having it potentially has alot of games behind them and thus knows how to play.
The Wisconsin, as a dockyard ship, could be 'earned' by about anyone regardless of skill level. As someone said though, those 16'50s are some of the best guns in the game and they will punish you.

[WES_HoundDog]

I've been in 6 games in the Wisconsin.  I got to say the only good one was the first one where i pushed the enemy flank alone.   I was kinda forced into it as a sub spotted me and i wasn't gonna turn around in front of 2 bb's.     Ended up rolling over a cruiser a sub (thanks for being terribad) a yamato and an iowa who tried to run.     That consumable redux with a good heal is very powerful.

 

All the other games were mid to long range blah fests.

[Dareios]

assuming an equal map, ie no consideration of being hit by another player, free to angle or manoever as needed, and also assuming enough HP to not need to worry about one good shot.

neither will overmatch the other frontally.

I give the borg odds on favourite.

whisky likely to be nose in, trading slightly better alpha and armour for being angled and low speed.

Borg takes a hit or two to face, throws a HE tickle back and then speed boosts for drive-by.

whiskey wont have speed, and is not real agile either, to turn into or attempt ram and leverage greater base HP. Borg will take a good 15-20K whallop to an angled freeboard area (slight angling and french wonky armour will reduce chances of citadels), and then borg gets 2 shots of 12 guns point blank into side of an american BB hull).

Even if Whiskey survives a probable 50K MGRB paddling, the borg will have sped past, turned faster and now be at Whiskeys other side while whiskey has tp deal with getting up to speed and having guns turned in a non-ideal direction.