About that 25% (steel) ship coupon

[tangofan]

At the moment I'm quite undecided what I should use my ship coupon for steel ship on.

The ships I'm considering primarily:

• Lauria
• Z-42

The ships that are also runs:

• Komissar
• Incomparable

The ships that I'm not considering at all:

• Roosevelt (not a CV fan)
• Gato (not a Sub fan)
• Shikishima (why, if Yamato and Satsuma exist)
• Vallejo (I'd probably rather play Worcester)

It seems that Lauria might be the strongest of the bunch, but I mostly play co-op/op modes and occasionally ranked, so I'm not sure that she's of that much use there. The Z-42 sounds like a variant on the Felix Schultz, so I'm not sure that it brings that much to the table, other than better HE ammo.

Re. the Komissar and the Incomp.: I'm not sure that a Russian cruiser w/o radar is all that useful to me (though I'm a big fan of the Petro and Moskva) and re. the Incomp. it just seems like the prototypical glass cannon. Except if I want to play a glass cannon, I'd pick Colbert or Smolensk.

Well, these are my thought and I know I might not be doing those ships justice. So please feel free to share your own experience with (any of) those ships, so I have some more food for thought. Thanks so much in advance!

[Wolfswetpaws]

Of the ships you list @tangofan, I'd select the R. Lauria.

[tangofan]

7 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

Of the ships you list @tangofan, I'd select the R. Lauria.

Thanks for the feedback @Wolfswetpaws. Could you please elaborate a bit, as to why you'd pick her? Is she just the best from a bad bunch or does she have something going for her?

Edited December 28, 2024 by tangofan

[BlueMax1916]

Cautious: Z-42 is not a variant of Schultz but G. Hoffmann is. Also a steel ship. Z-42 is the big brother of Z-35. British short smokes, 6 km hydro, but 10 x 105 mm guns.

[Kruzenstern]

19 minutes ago, tangofan said:

re. the Incomp. it just seems like the prototypical glass cannon. Except if I want to play a glass cannon, I'd pick Colbert or Smolensk.

Personally I love Incomparable. But of course I don't play randoms, she probably struggles there. But she is very powerful in coop, like when you have to farm bxp, damage or pot. damage for combat missions, because she is fast and hard-hitting enough to get in there ahead of most cruisers.

She also served me very well in 1v1 brawls, those guns rip huge holes into all opponents even when they are angled, and she has torps for the close range work. And the superheal makes up for the lackluster armor. And she is actually not nearly as squishy for me as the numbers suggest when properly angled. Purely from the fun to play perspective she is one of my top three ships overall.

[Wolfswetpaws]

9 minutes ago, tangofan said:

Thanks for the feedback @Wolfswetpaws. Could you please elaborate a bit, as to why you'd pick her? Is she just the best from a bad bunch or does she have something going for her?

She's simply among the "next" on my "steel ship shopping list", and is the only over-lappnig ship in both our lists.

I have the Shikishima, the Bourgogne, the Gato, the Mecklenburg and the Chikuma-II.
The Archerfish, the Shinano and the R. Lauria are the one's I'm interested in for the future.
And I was interested in the R. Lauria before the Archerfish and Shinano were introduced.
I welcomed the Chikuma-II because I didn't have enough steel for other ships and because the Chikuma-II was affordable and has a fun play-style that keeps a person busy with all of her methods of dishing-out damage (while keeping her from getting too much attention from incoming ordnance).

[tangofan]

17 minutes ago, BlueMax1916 said:

Cautious: Z-42 is not a variant of Schultz but G. Hoffmann is. Also a steel ship. Z-42 is the big brother of Z-35. British short smokes, 6 km hydro, but 10 x 105 mm guns.

Yes, you're right of course, I confused the two. I already have Hoffmann, got her in a Golden Gift Container.

So do you think the Z-42 is worth it and if so, in what situations?

[tangofan]

12 minutes ago, Kruzenstern said:

Personally I love Incomparable. But of course I don't play randoms, she probably struggles there. But she is very powerful in coop, like when you have to farm bxp, damage or pot. damage for combat missions, because she is fast and hard-hitting enough to get in there ahead of most cruisers.

She also served me very well in 1v1 brawls, those guns rip huge holes into all opponents even when they are angled, and she has torps for the close range work. And the superheal makes up for the lackluster armor. And she is actually not nearly as squishy for me as the numbers suggest when properly angled. Purely from the fun to play perspective she is one of my top three ships overall.

Cool, thanks for that perspective. She just moved up into my "ships I am primarily considering" tier.

[Utt_Bugglier]

46 minutes ago, tangofan said:

Thanks for the feedback @Wolfswetpaws. Could you please elaborate a bit, as to why you'd pick her? Is she just the best from a bad bunch or does she have something going for her?

18” SAP blaps things HARD.

35-knot speed

Second-echelon Torpedo Damage reduction, at 39%. (Nothing touches Yamato at 55%, but Lauria is near the top of the second group)

On the downside:

small HP pool of 79,200

Since it has SAP secondaries, it has no DOT potential.

Only eight barrels

And, doesn’t have Italian smoke, or any smoke for that matter.

Edited December 28, 2024 by Utt_Bugglier

[Tpaktop2_1 NA]

3 hours ago, tangofan said:

The ships that I'm not considering at all:

• Shikishima (why, if Yamato and Satsuma exist)

 

I like big guns and I can not lie
You other commanders can't deny
That when your ship goes in laying waste
And a round thing in your place

You get sprung, want to pull up tough
'Cause you noticed that gun was stuffed
Deep in the seam she's bearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring

Oh baby, I wanna get wit'cha
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that scuttlebutt makes me so horny
(Think "Baby Got Back" music)

🤭

Good luck in your choice OP

[Lord_Slayer]

1 hour ago, Tpaktop2_1 NA said:

I like big guns and I can not lie
You other commanders can't deny
That when your ship goes in laying waste
And a round thing in your place

You get sprung, want to pull up tough
'Cause you noticed that gun was stuffed
Deep in the seam she's bearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring

Oh baby, I wanna get wit'cha
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that scuttlebutt makes me so horny
(Think "Baby Got Back" music)

🤭

 

At the time I got my Shikishima Grand Battles was going on. Yamamoto rotated between Shikishima and Yamato and quickly became a 21 point captain.
As for why if Yamato and Satsuma exist?

Satsuma, as a supership, is a credit sink. You are not going to earn anything from her.

Yes, Yamato is the T10 and was the end of the IJN BB line for many years. But between experienced players and newer ships, she does not 'slap' down other ships quite as she used to. Shikishima gives you a Yamato hull with the Satsuma guns. The guns 'restore' the punch that Yamato used to have. I also find that because she seems to be a rarity, many forget about her until her shells punch through their bow.

Downside is both Shikishima and Satsuma have the same 'weakness' of the cheek citadel as Yamato. Also 18in and 20in guns can now be found on other ships.

[BlueMax1916]

4 hours ago, tangofan said:

Yes, you're right of course, I confused the two. I already have Hoffmann, got her in a Golden Gift Container.

So do you think the Z-42 is worth it and if so, in what situations?

 

It's a cap contester. And can club DDs with its 105 mm AP which ignites in the thin DD armour. But does not have the improved AP angles as Jutland/Somme and Daring. If you like British DDs and want it to be German take Z-42 😁

[GandalfTehGray]

Throwing in my vote as well for Incomparable. 

It's one of the few BBs in my normal coop play, it's fast, has big guns, and torps. All together this let you keep up with your dd/cruiser, overmatch every ship, and allow you to brawl (carefully)