New container series in Armory, ending with a T8 premium ship container, worth it or not?

[22 cm]

New container series in Armory, ending with a random T8 premium ship for 8888 gold, worth it or not?

 

 

Using a 25% discount coupon a DD is 7725 gold, a cruiser is 8475 gold, while a CV or BB would be more expensive than 8888 gold:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2024 by 22 cm

[OldSchoolGaming_Youtube]

Not?

[Nevermore135]

Tier VIII premiums typically sell for 11-14k doubloons in the Armory. If one doesn’t mind the random nature of the drop, it’s objectively a “good” deal compared to standard pricing, especially considering everything that precedes the T8 container.

If you’re considering it, just make sure to pick up the few T8 coal ships first. Both would be disappointing drops for most players.

Edited December 21, 2024 by Nevermore135

[Utt_Bugglier]

If you go the route of buying a ship in the armory, you can pick what you want.

with that series, you get pot luck.

[Admiral_Karasu]

6 minutes ago, Utt_Bugglier said:

If you go the route of buying a ship in the armory, you can pick what you want.

with that series, you get pot luck.

Meaning it's either the pot where the little people store the gold, or they use it for something else...

[Wrath_of_Deadguy]

I ended up pulling two more ships from the gamble-boxes in the chain, in addition to the guaranteed drop in the T8 crate; I got Tashkent '39, P. Bag, and Borodino.

If you do buy out the chain, bear in mind that several of the other potentially ship-bearing crates have some overlap with the drop list for the T8 crate. If you want to maximize your chances to pull multiple high-tier ships (by no means a guarantee), saving the T8 crate for last will let you roll for all of the other ship crates before opening the guaranteed T8 drop. If you purchase the whole chain in one go, the T8 crate will queue up first instead... which could be better if you want to get the ships that appear on multiple crates' drop lists out of the way to increase your chances at one of the other drops unique to those specific crates.

Or you could do the smart thing and just not gamble unless at least all of the ships in the T8 crate are ones you'd have paid dubs for otherwise; then you only stand to lose ~1k dubs in the worst case scenario of a ship worth less than the sticker price of the crate chain (with coupon) being your only drop. I did not do the smart thing- I just got lucky.

[desmo_2]

It doesn't appear to be a bad deal.  The chain drops a number of containers that have a decent % ship drop rate.  The best part is the guaranteed Tier 8 ship container at the end.  You ARE going to get a T8 ship for your 8,888 doubloons.  You just don't know which one.

An 8-pack of Mega Santa crates is 8,480 doubloons, and you may not get a single ship.

I would consider this to be a better deal than an 8-pack of Mega Santa containers, if you are inclined to buy into the container game.

[ReDiR20]

Absolutely worth it. Average T8 is roughly worth the whole price alone (8888 dubs). Additionally we can get 6 or so premium containers of various kind with good chance to drop one or more premiu mships.

So far, tried tried on my second acc and got Siliwangi and Orion 44 without even opening T8 container. Plus got sa lot of free p and blue boosters.

[22 cm]

18 minutes ago, desmo_2 said:

An 8-pack of Mega Santa crates is 8,480 doubloons, and you may not get a single ship.

I would consider this to be a better deal than an 8-pack of Mega Santa containers, if you are inclined to buy into the container game.

^

Edited December 20, 2024 by 22 cm

[Admiral_Karasu]

19 minutes ago, desmo_2 said:

It doesn't appear to be a bad deal.  The chain drops a number of containers that have a decent % ship drop rate.  The best part is the guaranteed Tier 8 ship container at the end.  You ARE going to get a T8 ship for your 8,888 doubloons.  You just don't know which one.

An 8-pack of Mega Santa crates is 8,480 doubloons, and you may not get a single ship.

I would consider this to be a better deal than an 8-pack of Mega Santa containers, if you are inclined to buy into the container game.

I suppose this also depends on which T8 ships you currently have and if you actually want to have any of those you still don't have.

[Itwastuesday]

Maybe. Can it drop rare ships? Do you like gambling? 

[mashed68]

For me? No.

I have like 85 ships. The list of ones left I'd actually play is getting small. So the random drop nature makes me wary. To be fair, WG seems to drop ships I'll enjoy when they do grace me with that luck[like a jean bart just the other night], but for almost 9k dubs I can't swing it. I did just spend 3500 to get lungdunum and 5100 to get warspite though. 

Edited December 20, 2024 by mashed68

[Arcus_Aesopi]

If your goal is to collect (any) ships regardless of cost, it seems reasonable.

If your goal is to be effective in some particular battle type, you're better off purchasing (with coupons) the exact ships you need for the purposes you have in mind.  Long term, this will be more cost effective in what is a very expensive game if you're even mildly contemplating gambling crates.

Whatever you spend, make sure it is truly "disposable" and for entertainment only as this game will eventually morph into something else or just end.

Best regards!

[Ensign Cthulhu]

20 minutes ago, Itwastuesday said:

Can it drop rare ships?

No. 

If you click on the box in the Armory, it will tell you which T8 ships it can give and which ones you already have. 

It's a good deal - cheaper than just about any T8 ship in the Armory without a discount bonus, and that's even before all the extras - if you have an open mind and you are prepared to give whatever it hands you a chance.

The only gamble here is which T8 premium you get, because you are going to get one. If the possibility of getting a T8 premium ship you weren't hoping for or actively didn't want fills you with annoyance or even rage, your issues are not Wargaming's problem. 

[Admiral_Karasu]

2 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

No. 

If you click on the box in the Armory, it will tell you which T8 ships it can give and which ones you already have. 

It's a good deal - cheaper than just about any T8 ship in the Armory without a discount bonus, and that's even before all the extras - if you have an open mind and you are prepared to give whatever it hands you a chance.

The only gamble here is which T8 premium you get, because you are going to get one. If the possibility of getting a T8 premium ship you weren't hoping for or actively didn't want fills you with annoyance or even rage, your issues are not Wargaming's problem. 

So, basically it's down to how many ships are up, and how many of those you won't mind having as opposed to being disappointed with what you got. The more of the former, the better the deal, and vice versa.

[WildWind84]

Honestly, I bought that plus also bought 8 mega santa crates. Ended with 5 ships, some boosters, some signals, little coal and 3000 steel. 

EDIT: Ships from that was 1 T8 CV (or Aquila or Theseuss) and T8 cruiser Prinz Eugen. From 8 mega crates ships were second T8 CV (or Aquila or Theseus), T8 japanese sub and  T8 bb Lenin. Last mega crates turn out into gold crates and drop me 3000 steel. 

 

Edited December 21, 2024 by WildWind84

[tfcas119]

8.8k dubs for a T8 premium. With a coupon they range around there average, but you know what you'll get. This could be gold (for me) like Irian, Hampshire, Numancia, and Grau, or something useless like a CV or sub. I still went with for it because everything else leading up to it makes it worth the 8.8k dub gamble. Plus I still have 25k dubs from crates/forum rewards laying around.

Edit: Mostly blue boosters, 2500 dubs, and S-189. 2500 dubs and 70 steel is nice I guess

Edited December 21, 2024 by tfcas119

[Wolfswetpaws]

3 hours ago, Itwastuesday said:

Maybe. Can it drop rare ships? Do you like gambling? 

See my answer, below.

5 hours ago, 22 cm said:

New container series in Armory, ending with a random T8 premium ship for 8888 gold, worth it or not?

 

 

Using a 25% discount coupon a DD is 7725 gold, a cruiser is 8475 gold, while a CV or BB would be more expensive than 8888 gold:

 

 

100% chance of dropping one of the following Tier-8 ships.
https://armory.worldofwarships.com/en/category/featured/5000005442/  

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Gascogne, Alabama, Atago,
Bayard, Belfast '43, Borodino,
Brandenburg, Champagne, Cheshire,
Chkalov, Congress, Constellation,
Cossack, Fenyang, Flandre,
Graf Zeppellin, Hornet, Indomitable,
Irian, Kaga, Kidd,
Kii, Le Terrible, Loyang,
Mainz, Ochakov, Orkan,
P. Bagraton, Prinz Eugen, Rochester,
Roma, Saipan, Siliwangi,
Tiger '59, Tirpitz, Tone,
Vanguard, Wichita, Z-35,
Aquila, Anhalt, San Diego,
Hampshire, I-56, S-189,
Alliance, Almte. Grau, Nottingham,
Numancia, Schill.

"50 Ships in total"
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I viewed the armory via the World of Warships website, while I was not logged-in.
So, the page showed me all the ships available for "drop" and did not indicate which ships are already in my Port.

The rare ship named Musashi is Tier-9.  
So, she's not in the Tier-8 drop-list.

Notice that the Anhalt, which is available for 135,000 units of coal, is also in the drop-list.

There are a number of fun-to-sail ships on the list.
And, personally, I have already welcomed most of the ones that have interested me.  
The exceptions being the Aquila and the Alliance, and I plan to get them later (with a coupon).
So, for me, this opportunity isn't an appealing value.

For someone with few or zero Tier-8 ships, this opportunity may hold some appeal, because the total cost isn't outrageous and you get the other "goodies" in the progression leading-up to the final randomly-drawn-from-a-list "prize ship".

For those who want a specific ship, it may be preferable to use a coupon and purchase the ship via a more "normal" acquisition process?

 

Edited December 21, 2024 by Wolfswetpaws

[Taylor3006]

I had some doubloons left over and went ahead and bought out the chain. I did get two tier 8 premiums. Got the Enterprise and some Russian submarine.  Was hoping for ships I would want or would actually use but I suppose it removes them from the prize pool AND I don't have to spend credits outfitting them with equipment. 

Hoping that they will do another trade in deal where I can dump them for something I want but if not, they represent more steel for snowflakes. 

[Wolfswetpaws]

28 minutes ago, Taylor3006 said:

I had some doubloons left over and went ahead and bought out the chain. I did get two tier 8 premiums. Got the Enterprise and some Russian submarine.  Was hoping for ships I would want or would actually use but I suppose it removes them from the prize pool AND I don't have to spend credits outfitting them with equipment. 

Hoping that they will do another trade in deal where I can dump them for something I want but if not, they represent more steel for snowflakes. 

Congratulations on your new ships.  🙂 

The Enterprise eluded me from 2018 until the 2024 Leyte Gulf event.
The S-189 dropped for me via a seasonal container within the past week or two.

[desmo_2]

 Before investing in any of these "bargain" events, you need to honestly asses what you want to receive for your expense.

If you want specific ships for specific goals, you should spend on sales that address your specific wants.  DO NOT invest in gambling crates hoping to score your specific ship.  The odds will not favor you.  Even if you spend your way to a larger fleet, the chances of more gambling to land your unicorn are NOT in your favor.  If your trophy is a currently unobtainium ship only available through gambling crates, you need to keep your eyes wide open to the fact that you are the primary customer for whom these events are created.  Thousands of players have fallen into this trap and will spend hundreds (thousands, even!) of dollars to chase that rare drop.  This type of container chase purchase favors the dealer (WG, certainly not you).

If your desire is to acquire a fair amount of premium ships for a minimal expense (but still an EXPENSE!), these holiday deals can be rewarding.  They can be more rewarding than purchasing ships outright if you do your research.  If you spend on crates, did not get the drops you wanted and are butt hurt about it, you did not do your research and you spent poorly based on what your desired outcome was.

I have most of my desired ships.  Many of them I acquired when they were still available for in-game resources or via reward events.  I have premium ships (in some cases tech tree ships are still dominant) for nearly any mission task WG can invent.  WG has pumped out far too many premiums for me to collect them all, but I still find the fun in expanding my port for minimal investment.  These holiday events suit that endeavor.

Figure out what you want and/or need in your fleet.  Should you buy specific ships outright?  Should you play the crate gambling game and potentially get more premium ships that you may not need?  There are multiple options out there...know what you want and figure out what are the most logical methods to achieve them.  Gambling crates can be rewarding...or they could be frustrating and a financial bust.

Only your specific wants dictate the difference.

Edited December 21, 2024 by desmo_2

[Frostbow]

8 hours ago, 22 cm said:

New container series in Armory, ending with a random T8 premium ship for 8888 gold, worth it or not?

Most definitely not worth it. This is yet another gambling-based sale, pure and simple.

[Tread_Head57]

This is the ultimate gambler’s series. I was going to buy an 8-pack of Santa megas before the end of the event, but decided to go with this for about the same cost. Ended up getting two tier VIII cruisers (P. Bagration & Tone). Along with the other stuff that dropped (including 1k dubs) I’m happy I went with these.

[a252]

I took the deal, and got Loyang at the end. (The only ship that can be dropped for me with lower price than the 8888 dub cost) It is 1/37 chance....

Well, anyway I am ok with it.

Edited December 21, 2024 by a252

[Sumseaman]

17 hours ago, desmo_2 said:

 Before investing in any of these "bargain" events, you need to honestly asses what you want to receive for your expense.

If you have specific ships for specific goals, you should spend on sales that address your specific wants.  DO NOT invest in gambling crates hoping to score your specific ship.  The odds will not favor you.  Even if you spend your way to a larger fleet, the chances of more gambling to land your unicorn are NOT in your favor.  If your trophy is a currently unobtainium ship only available through gambling crates, you need to keep your eyes wide open to the fact that you are the primary customer for whom these events are created.  Thousands of players have fallen into this trap and will spend hundreds (thousands, even!) of dollars to chase that rare drop.  This type of container chase purchase favors the dealer (WG, certainly not you).

If your desire is to acquire a fair amount of premium ships for a minimal expense (but still an EXPENSE!), these holiday deals can be rewarding.  They can be more rewarding than purchasing ships outright if you do your research.  If you spend on crates, did not get the drops you wanted and are butt hurt about it, you did not do your research and you spent poorly based on what your desired outcome was.

I have most of my desired ships.  Many of them I acquired when they were still available for in-game resources or via reward events.  I have premium ships (in some cases tech tree ships are still dominant) for nearly any mission task WG can invent.  WG has pumped out far too many premiums for me to collect them all, but I still find the fun in expanding my port for minimal investment.  These holiday events suit that endeavor.

Figure out what you want and/or need in your fleet.  Should you buy specific ships outright?  Should you play the crate gambling game and potentially get more premium ships that you may not need?  There are multiple options out there...know what you want and figure out what are the most logical methods to achieve them.  Gambling crates can be rewarding...or they could be frustrating and a financial bust.

Only your specific wants dictate the difference.

That's the thread closer. Nail on the head.

Players need to learn that some sacred ships are simply a look-don't-touch. If such things are locked away in these mysterious crates they are to be left undisturbed. If you weren't around to obtain a ship then it was not meant to be, you should only be able to gaze in longing at it in the match list and try to be content with what you have. You could try to ruin the experience for those that have it by demanding that it is nerfed in lengthy rants.

Coming from a person here that has some of the forbidden fruit trust me that the shine wears off as the game is updated. I must admit I have a sick fetish though for players who drop a ton of $$$, don't get what they desired then vent on every game medium how unfair it all is. Usually they only wanted the ship to hurt others with. 

Edited December 21, 2024 by Sumseaman