Now WG Has Got me Intrigued

[tm63au]

Just been going through the motions with the festive seasons events then tonight for some reason I decided to have a closer look at this helicopter survey ship they have everywhere and read its profile !

After reading its bio about a mystery Battleship and two fortune hunters i started to sit up and get interested.

Could this mystery Battleship be this ship sitting anchored beside our ocean adventurer survey ship?

  

If it is now that I look closer at it, the ship seems to resemble a French Battleship ?

Please tell me this is not not MN Normandie or Lyon as it will be very disappointing.

Amazing how in a blink of an eye things dramatically change on closer inspection.

For the record I like both ships but have them both.

however it may take the wind out of my sails if its either of these ships.  

Edited December 14, 2024 by tm63au

[desmo_2]

I assume this is the ship being highlighted in the story that accompanies the holiday Advent calendar.

[Kynami]

From what has been said elsewhere, the 2nd Christmas season event pass features a secondary focused variant of the Lyon.

[KJ82]

I think the first ship is a Pan Asian Sinop.

[tm63au]

18 minutes ago, Kynami said:

From what has been said elsewhere, the 2nd Christmas season event pass features a secondary focused variant of the Lyon.

Has possibilities to be interesting in my humble opinion, still another copy and paste, where are these famous ship drafts and blueprints this mob seem to able to find in some dust and mildew infested cupboard in the Kremlin canteen that seem to find there way to the designer department at WG.

Strange no new French BB designs.

 

regards   

Edited December 14, 2024 by tm63au

[Admiral_Karasu]

19 minutes ago, Kynami said:

From what has been said elsewhere, the 2nd Christmas season event pass features a secondary focused variant of the Lyon.

Any sauce for that?

15 minutes ago, KJ82 said:

I think the first ship is a Pan Asian Sinop.

Yes, but this time with US gun accuracy at long ranges or something like that.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

26 minutes ago, KJ82 said:

I think the first ship is a Pan Asian Sinop.

Yes. With better dispersion at long range, a Bungo-flavoured spotter, and - unlike the real Sinop - infinite recharges on the damage control party (i.e. she has a standard DCP).

IMHO she fixes most of Sinop's weaknesses.

[Admiral_Karasu]

5 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

Yes. With better dispersion at long range, a Bungo-flavoured spotter, and - unlike the real Sinop - infinite recharges on the damage control party (i.e. she has a standard DCP).

IMHO she fixes most of Sinop's weaknesses.

Yes, but she also got uptiered in the process. Nonetheless, I find myself intrigued as well as I see Teng She as an improvement over Sinop. I had a look at the image in OP, it looks likely then that the other ship is a similarly uptiered Lyon. What would be interesting to know is what kind of stat changes WG has given that ship. Apparently, if we only want one, we can't wait and see, sadly.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

7 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

Yes, but she also got uptiered in the process.

Teng She and Sinop are both Tier 7.

   

You might be getting confused with Picardie as compared to Lyon. But Lugdunum, the Euro Lyon, is T7 like her French cousin.

Edited December 14, 2024 by Ensign Cthulhu

[Admiral_Karasu]

6 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

Teng She and Sinop are both Tier 7.

   

You might be getting confused with Picardie as compared to Lyon. But Lugdunum, the Euro Lyon, is T7 like her French cousin.

Damn, thanks, I stand corrected. Then Teng She is definitely the better ship of the two in my book despite whatever else got changed in the process. However, isn't this now a problem because Lyon is tier 6 (right?....), and it would be a little strange if part 2 were to have a ship one tier lower than part 1, IMO.

[Wolfswetpaws]

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[MidnightPhoenix07]

2 hours ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

Any sauce for that?

https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/game-updates/update-1311-holiday-celebrations/
 

Lugdunum is the ship reward for the second battle pass. From the original dev blog, it’s described as a secondary/close quarters focused battleship, for as good as t7 secondary builds really are. 

[Ensign Cthulhu]

1 hour ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

However, isn't this now a problem because Lyon is tier 6 (right?....)

Lyon is Tier 7.

[MidnightPhoenix07]

1 hour ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

However, isn't this now a problem because Lyon is tier 6 (right?....), and it would be a little strange if part 2 were to have a ship one tier lower than part 1, IMO.

Both ships are t7. Normandie’s the t6 French battleship. 

 

1 hour ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

What would be interesting to know is what kind of stat changes WG has given that ship.

You can always compare them in the game (with one of the tech tree mods) or on shiptool or shipbuilder.

Lugdunum has a bit more than a kilometer less range than upgraded Lyon, with a faster reload and slightly better sigma but lower shell damage and a bit less fire chance.

Same secondary range, but Lugdunum has a faster reload and uses the same improved dispersion as the US secondary BBs. 

Identical maneuverability, asw defenses, health, and armor (iirc from when I checked it during testing), but Lugdunum has slightly better concealment. 

[Admiral_Karasu]

53 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

Lyon is Tier 7.

Aw crap, NVM, I'm an idiot. Google keeps giving me Legends ship data for whatever twisted reason.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

Just now, Admiral_Karasu said:

Wut!

Try the other one, mate.

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Navy:Lyon

That's the page for World of Warships: Legends, the console game.

In the PC original, she's Tier 7. 

[Wolfswetpaws]

19 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

Aw crap, NVM, I'm an idiot. Google keeps giving me Legends ship data for whatever twisted reason.

Bookmark the WOWs PC version wiki.  🙂 
https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/World_of_Warships

Or find it via your preferred region's World of Warships main-page, via the "useful" pull-down menu.
  
  🙂 
 

[Admiral_Karasu]

9 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

Bookmark the WOWs PC version wiki.  🙂 
https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/World_of_Warships

Or find it via your preferred region's World of Warships main-page, via the "useful" pull-down menu.
  
  🙂 
 

Well, up until now, Google always gave me OUR WoWS wiki in the search results. For some what I only imagine is a nefarious purpose of theirs they are now top listing the LEGENDS version for me.

[Wolfswetpaws]

22 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

Well, up until now, Google always gave me OUR WoWS wiki in the search results. For some what I only imagine is a nefarious purpose of theirs they are now top listing the LEGENDS version for me.

You're relying upon Google?  😉 

 

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[Admiral_Karasu]

2 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

You're relying upon Google?  😉 

 

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You have a better alternative for Guuguru?

[Wolfswetpaws]

3 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

You have a better alternative for Guuguru?

https://duckduckgo.com/

[Admiral_Karasu]

5 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

https://duckduckgo.com/

Okay, thanks... maybe I can get there at some point but I got this 'inertia' factor when it comes to making any changes. I've been using Google for I don't know for how long, I think I used to use Altavista and Excite previously. I was also using Netscape back then...

[Wolfswetpaws]

5 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

Okay, thanks... maybe I can get there at some point but I got this 'inertia' factor when it comes to making any changes. I've been using Google for I don't know for how long, I think I used to use Altavista and Excite previously. I was also using Netscape back then...

I believe that google has their own agenda, and that agenda may skew the search results for a variety of reasons.
Of course, it is your choice to use whichever search-engine you prefer (according to your criteria).  🙂