Growing Number Of Ships With Helipads On Deck Is This A Sign ?

[tm63au]

I seem to be noticing that new ships are fitted with pads are we seeing the beginning of the cold war, will we see choppers with Anti Sub weapons.

 

  

 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2024 by tm63au

[majmac]

Why not? There are a few games out there that do centre on Cold War scenarios.

They seem to be quite popular, though they are not a straight out arcade games like WoWS is.

In the case of WoWS we can immediately call in anti-sub air strikes (BBs, CCs, and most cruisers) so a helicopter would be redundant.

I do not think that WoWS has the expertise to develop the game anymore, hence the copy-pasta ships and the gimmicks. They would not be able to develop an in-depth strategy game such as those naval ones that exist for the Cold War era.

Edited December 3, 2024 by majmac

[Wolfswetpaws]

Some of the ships in WOWs have design or build dates that are after 1945.

Helicopters began to "take off" and proliferate by the 1950's.
https://executiveflyers.com/when-was-the-helicopter-invented/  
https://www.caaa.com.au/a-brief-history-of-the-helicopter/  
 

[tm63au]

2 hours ago, majmac said:

Why not? There are a few games out there that do centre on Cold War scenarios.

They seem to be quite popular, though they are not a straight out arcade games like WoWS is.

In the case of WoWS we can immediately call in anti-sub air strikes (BBs, CCs, and most cruisers) so a helicopter would be redundant.

I do not think that WoWS has the expertise to develop the game anymore, hence the copy-pasta ships and the gimmicks. They would not be able to develop an in-depth strategy game such as those naval ones that exist for the Cold War era.

Each to there own but I am afraid I do not subscribe to this game going full Cold War even though we have ships from that period.

If WG want full Cold War then make a new game for that kind of warfare.

 

regards  

[Aethervox]

I sure hope WoWS  do not introduce helicopters into this 😒 now bent out of shape, stapled & mutilated arcade 'something' whatever it is masquerading as. 

Edited December 3, 2024 by Aethervox

[Ensign Cthulhu]

12 hours ago, tm63au said:

will we see choppers with Anti Sub weapons.

It wouldn't be any different from the current airborne ASW, except in a visual sense. 

Personally, I'm wishing for them to bring in Leander '59 (DD). It would offset its single Daring turret with stupidly good concealment, fast-recycling airborne ASW, acoustic homing torps (albeit with a short range) and insanely high charge numbers, ranges and durations on its hydro and radar. 

Edited December 3, 2024 by Ensign Cthulhu

[Admiral_Karasu]

21 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

It wouldn't be any different from the current airborne ASW, except in a visual sense. 

Personally, I'm wishing for them to bring in Leander '59 (DD). It would offset its single Daring turret with stupidly good concealment, fast-recycling airborne ASW, acoustic homing torps (albeit with a short range) and insanely high charge numbers, ranges and durations on its hydro and radar. 

Well.. it would be somewhat more believable than phantom airstrikes. The problem is, that this would be limited to just the newer ships, so the mechanic and the issues the game has with ASW would not get solved by it.

[Itwastuesday]

ASW, hah. WoWs helicopters would have ap rockets to specifically screw cruisers. 

[Andrewbassg]

14 hours ago, tm63au said:

I seem to be noticing that new ships are fitted with pads are we seeing the beginning of the cold war, will we see choppers with Anti Sub weapons.

 

  

 

 

 

Tbh...... I wouldn't mind if that would translate into some gameplay diversity. I mean choppers are slower, but also more accurate, more manoeuvrable and also more fragile than planes. And Nevsky, also the EU dd line still has only their RBU's which are not exactly sub killer weapons.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

25 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said:

also the EU dd line still has only their RBU's which are not exactly sub killer weapons.

That's exactly what they are.

[Andrewbassg]

13 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

That's exactly what they are.

Not in Wows context.

Edit: RL RBU's are trainable and also are complemented by other means (see Sovier Navy doctrines about the separation of roles even among classes as ASW/SSW vessels and their armament like the SS-N-3)

Edited December 3, 2024 by Andrewbassg

[Ensign Cthulhu]

4 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said:

Not in Wows context.

I have sunk submarines in WOWS with my forward-firing EU ship ASW. 

[Andrewbassg]

10 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

I have sunk submarines in WOWS with my forward-firing EU ship ASW. 

Dd's are somewhat more manoeuvrable then Nevsky, me thinks. And see the edit.

EdiT Also Archerfish say hi.

Edited December 3, 2024 by Andrewbassg

[Admiral_Karasu]

Usually, in WoWS, when I engage in ASW activity all I get sunk is a DD.

[Wolfswetpaws]

3 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

Usually, in WoWS, when I engage in ASW activity all I get sunk is a DD.

Your own DD or the other team's DD?

[Wolfswetpaws]

24 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said:

Not in Wows context.

Edit: RL RBU's are trainable and also are complemented by other means (see Sovier Navy doctrines about the separation of roles even among classes as ASW/SSW vessels and their armament like the SS-N-3)

Are you referring to ASW systems, such as this one?
 
https://www.weaponsystems.net/system/528-RBU-6000 Smerch-2  

These seem to be a longer-ranged and (as you said) trainable variation of the "Hedgehog" concept of Anti-Submarine Mortar weapons.
https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Hedgehog_(weapon)  
https://militaryhistorynow.com/2023/04/29/the-hedgehog-meet-the-allies-devastatingly-effective-u-boat-killer/  

[OldSchoolGaming_Youtube]

I wouldn't be shocked at anything that WG might implement in the game at this point, so why not attack helicopters? Jingles has already called it that the Photon torpedo's in Star Trek event is WG not-so secret testing for soon to come Surface to Surface guided missiles, which I totally convinced he right about. Halland and Småland was the first destroyers in the world that got equipped with those so I just say "Yes Please!".

The only requirement for ANY upcoming implementations is .... drumroll ... Can WG Monetize it? If WG could sell unbalanced Premium versions of it, we would have Dinosaur's in this game.

[Admiral_Karasu]

2 minutes ago, OldSchoolGaming_Youtube said:

I wouldn't be shocked at anything that WG might implement in the game at this point, so why not attack helicopters? Jingles has already called it that the Photon torpedo's in Star Trek event is WG not-so secret testing for soon to come Surface to Surface guided missiles, which I totally convinced he right about. Halland and Småland was the first destroyers in the world that got equipped with those so I just say "Yes Please!".

The only requirement for ANY upcoming implementations is .... drumroll ... Can WG Monetize it? If WG could sell unbalanced Premium versions of it, we would have Dinosaur's in this game.

Well..uhm.. er...

 

[Wolfswetpaws]

3 minutes ago, OldSchoolGaming_Youtube said:

I wouldn't be shocked at anything that WG might implement in the game at this point, so why not attack helicopters? Jingles has already called it that the Photon torpedo's in Star Trek event is WG not-so secret testing for soon to come Surface to Surface guided missiles, which I totally convinced he right about. Halland and Småland was the first destroyers in the world that got equipped with those so I just say "Yes Please!".

The only requirement for ANY upcoming implementations is .... drumroll ... Can WG Monetize it? If WG could sell unbalanced Premium versions of it, we would have Dinosaur's in this game.

The Mighty Jingles is also notorious for mis-identifying ships and being unable to pronounce names that are more complicated than "Dave".  😉 

Astute observers may have noticed that the recent Star Trek collaboration photon-torpedoes were very similar to weapons used in the "Big Hunt" and "Key Battles" arena modes of the past.  🙂 

[OldSchoolGaming_Youtube]

4 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

Well..uhm.. er...

 

See .....! ! ! 

 

Its just a matter of time before we get both Godzilla and the real Kraken ingame! 😁

[Wolfswetpaws]

Just now, OldSchoolGaming_Youtube said:

See .....! ! ! 

 

Its just a matter of time before we get both Godzilla and the real Kraken ingame! 😁

I think that could be "cool", "interesting" and "fun", though.  🙂 

Also, I think it would be nice to have a 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea collaboration event.  🙂 
Let's do some ramming in the low-tiers with a premium Nautilus!  Muahahahahah!  😄 

[Andrewbassg]

1 hour ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

Are you referring to ASW systems, such as this one?

Yes. There was (and actually is) a whole family of derivatives ( hence the colloquial term RBU - Reaktivno-Bombovaja Ustanovka) 1000, 2000 and 6000 with its own upgrade the RPK-8. Still they were and are quite limited ( except the latest) in capabilities and calling them ASW weapons is as misleading, as calling CIWS proper AAW weapons. 

[OldSchoolGaming_Youtube]

I mean, there shouldn't really be a reason to why WG shouldn't be implementing some attack helis into the game, we already have every other sort of planes doing different types of attacks.

Imagine clicking on the map where u see a spotted ship, just like in the Dutch cruisers and a Heli takes of and circles around the ship strafing it with HE rockets all over the superstructure! Also of course you will be able to switch to AP rockets for some 360 Citadel action.

 

We have already seen matches in Randoms with 9 "CVs" in the same game ..... 

so why shouldn't we have some more Aircrafts and make the game even more passive.

Imagine being foolish enough to try and play the BB class in 2025. You will only see the other foolish BB guy on the red team but you will get struck, bombed, torped, homing torped, skip-bombed from every angle ... by ships never to be seen... 

[Admiral_Karasu]

5 minutes ago, OldSchoolGaming_Youtube said:

Imagine clicking on the map where u see a spotted ship, just like in the Dutch cruisers and a Heli takes of and circles around the ship strafing it with HE rockets all over the superstructure! Also of course you will be able to switch to AP rockets for some 360 Citadel action.

 

I imagine I wouldn't see a ship there after that happened.

 

[majmac]

6 hours ago, Andrewbassg said:

and also more fragile than planes

Not in WoWS universe! Just press the heal button and the pilot leans out the door under the rotating blades and gets out his trusty duct tape and fixes the explosion damage!