Does Little White Mouse still do ship reviews?

[Tread_Head57]

I dropped the Florida from a free small container last night and went to look up its review. While scrolling I noticed there hasn't been a new LWM ship review for over a year. I love the format and depth of the reviews, just wondering if new ones are on another site or if she moved on from the game. 

[Pan_De_Muerte]

Curious to know as well. I'm assuming she moved on, or at least stopped doing the reviews, due to WG's treatment of the Yukon project. But that's third hand rumors.

[Wolfswetpaws]

My personal guess is that @LittleWhiteMouse has been busy with other aspects of her life.
Another guess might be that the supply of ships for review has dried-up (in other words, nobody is supplying her with free ships)?

Whatever she's doing, I'm grateful she's been a wonderful member of a comunity, and I wish her well.  🙂 

[AdmiralThunder]

21 minutes ago, Tread_Head57 said:

I dropped the Florida from a free small container last night and went to look up its review. While scrolling I noticed there hasn't been a new LWM ship review for over a year. I love the format and depth of the reviews, just wondering if new ones are on another site or if she moved on from the game. 

There is a section on this site with a lot of her old reviews. Florida is one of them.

 

[Aethervox]

I wish LittleWhiteMouse and Chobittsu, also, were here in DevStrike. 

I did play one random  battle years ago once with LWM on my team. She a new DD (I think) & playtesting it. I, a Cruiser on Two Brothers. She was being attacked & got sunk early then I got sunk trying to assist (read rescue) her. We lost that one (a fate I see 😒 just over 50% of the time, it seems, on EU Server). {On NA Server, I do better😁}

I see LWM has a DevStrike  account although not that active (last here in early September).

Perhaps, someone could contact Chobittsu & LWM  via RL email/phone (or something)?

Edited December 2, 2024 by Aethervox

[Kynami]

2 minutes ago, Aethervox said:

Perhaps, someone who could contact them IRL would inquire whether they would join up here?

Thing is they do have accounts here, but they basically have moved on. You could attempt using the @ to ping their user account, but them responding might take a while.

[Wolfswetpaws]

1 hour ago, Aethervox said:

I wish LittleWhiteMouse and Chobittsu, also, were here in DevStrike. 

I did play one random  battle years ago once with LWM on my team. She a new DD (I think) & playtesting it. I, a Cruiser on Two Brothers. She was being attacked & got sunk early then I got sunk trying to assist (read rescue) her. We lost that one (a fate I see 😒 just over 50% of the time, it seems, on EU Server). {On NA Server, I do better😁}

I see LWM has a DevStrike  account although not that active (last here in early September).

Perhaps, someone could contact Chobittsu & LWM  via RL email/phone (or something)?

 They are valued members of DevStrike.
Whether or not @Chobittsu and LittleWhiteMouse will reply to this topic will be their decision.

[hipcanuck]

6 hours ago, Pan_De_Muerte said:

Curious to know as well. I'm assuming she moved on, or at least stopped doing the reviews, due to WG's treatment of the Yukon project. But that's third hand rumors.

There was much, MUCH more to it than that, but it is her story to tell. There are a lot of rumours, half remembered facts and jumbled stories about her departure. I could add to the half remembered facts and add a 'I seem to recall....' but I wont because......they are half remembered lol.

She was greatly appreciated by the playerbase, an immense asset to WG (even if they chose not to acknowledge or comprehend it) and her work is missed by all.

Fair winds LWM!

I'd add the 'following seas' part but following seas is a bad thing, unless you are in a sailing vessel, as anyone who has ever helmed a ship in the ocean will tell you. Its hard work spinning the wheel and reacting to the rudder flopping about when its out of the water

[Frostbow]

9 hours ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

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That is an absolutely poor comment considering how clear the established facts were surrounding LWM's tireless and selfless efforts for the World of Warships community, and how Wargaming threw it—and all the goodwill she made—out of the window.

Everybody remembers the Yukon debacle made by Wargaming. The sheer amount of miscommunication on the part of Wargaming at that time was numerous and persistent that it was rightly acknowledged by many as deliberate. 

Commenting on LWM quitting ship reviews is not only grossly misleading but also reeks of a deep seated bias against LWM.

[hipcanuck]

11 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

WG was supplying her with free ships until she quit, and thus she shot herself in the foot with a Yamato main gun.

LWM could have easily started her own patreon setup, the masses would have happily supported her and she knows it, so that has very little to do with it. As for her quitting, she was pushed towards the door like the rest of them...then they quit, that would qualify as a constructive dismissal. Create a working environment so toxic that people leave rather than firing them. I work in a similar environment, but Im old and cranky and I can be just as toxic as management...the trick is keep being measurably productive at a consistent pace while not taking any crap. It will also be very expensive to get rid of me and since the owner is cheap, he has to put up with my crap too 🙂

What a patreon would have changed is that she'd have to purchase the ship after release, and not be able to review a pre release ship...which was occasionally changed prior to release.

[Wolfswetpaws]

18 hours ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

My personal guess is that @LittleWhiteMouse has been busy with other aspects of her life.
Another guess might be that the supply of ships for review has dried-up (in other words, nobody is supplying her with free ships)?

Whatever she's doing, I'm grateful she's been a wonderful member of a comunity, and I wish her well.  🙂 

I get the impression that somewhere between this ^^^^^ and this \/\/\/\/\/ is where this topic went "off the rails".

9 hours ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

Hidden message

How did this ^^^^ help the situation?
I'm reminded of the saying, "If you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all".
I'm also remembering what "Bill & Ted" tried to teach us.
  

"Happy Christmas", eh?

[Sidelock]

People... stay on topic or the mods will close it. Pretty much everyone knows what happened back then, there's no need to re-start a topic that was discussed to death by essentially, most of the playerbase.

Edited December 3, 2024 by Sidelock

[I_cant_Swim_]

Yes, we may want to steer back to the right path, right about here. Remember, folks, @LittleWhiteMouse is a very welcome member on DevStrike! We would love for her to continue producing reviews - after all, she would be producing them for us, and for no-one else.

[Itwastuesday]

All I remember is that wow, this game has someone doing actual written content instead of long-winded noisy videos full of memes. And now it's gone. Because of WG. I remember thinking those people must be... stupid, let's put it that way. 

Maybe the desired customers are people who can't or won't read though. 

Edited December 3, 2024 by Itwastuesday

[Andrewbassg]

7 hours ago, Frostbow said:

• You mean Wargaming asked LWM and Chobittsu to do work for Wargaming? Work that included design and gimmicks for a new premium battleship? Including amazing and thorough work on the camo?
• That LWM and Chobittsu did all of it for Wargaming for nearly one year?
• You mean Wargaming forgot that LWM and Chobittsu have been working on the Yukon?
• You mean Wargaming released the Yukon but made it clear that LWM and Chobittsu had nothing to with it?
• That WG did not even (initially) acknowledge their earnest efforts?
• That only when the controversy was made public did Wargaming start to take notice of it?
• That WG made a scapegoat out of one of their employees?
• That WG apologized profusely and publicly for the severe and persistent miscommunication within their ranks?
• That WG Forum Moderators locked down an entire thread in the old NA forum because they could not make their way out of their dumpster fire?

Yes, that was the Yukon debacle. But .....

7 hours ago, Frostbow said:

Fortunately, we can still see the entire picture.

..... some key context is missing. For example, the in-game Thunderer is conceptually based on an idea of LWM. She came up with the concept AND the playstyle,  so she was in the right to assume that the word "design" means the whole shebang, given her track record. WG ( head office) meant a "nice camo", but that got lost in the "transition" within.  The real culprit for this was the abysmal and toxic corporate culture and communication within WG, indicated in the bold.( there is a LOT more to be said about this, but that's another looong story).  Keep in mind that LWM and Chobbitsu tried repeatedly (we talk about a year!!) to contact them and "keep them in the picture" to be repeatedly turned down, like "don't worry, just do your stuff"

The ugly stuff then started  when they tried first to deny, then to downplay, then to "buy" their way out from it.

But that's just the Yukon story and some key context is still missing. LWM was, IRC, at one point NA CM (i.e. same as Boggsy) and also at one point was head of the CC program (this I know for fact). As such she repeatedly warned against setting lose the CC's, to compete for rates. When people complains about Flamu they should keep in mind that he IS Wedgie's creation.

Fast forward, well  before the Yukon debacle. WG monetisation tactics got increasingly aggressive and also problematic, because of the game's rating  and the emphasis on highly questionable RNG lootboxes (remember Makarov?).  The lead CC's started to voice their increasing displeasure (rightly so) with this turn of events. Then, started to talk amongst themselves, because WG wouldn't listen to them, to the players, to anybody (sounds familiar?)  about the need for an action.  Eventually, settled for a walkout. And THEN the Yukon story burst, creating a "perfect storm". LWM never lied about this nor tried to misled. She was upfront, as she always was.

We owe of her a TON and some more, heck WG owes her a TON and then some . As a direct result of her struggle, we got the  operations back, we got more playmodes and we got WG to actually pay some attention. WG learned a hard lesson, but a well deserved one. The game today is a result of her actions.

Like I said, long story and needs to be properly told. She never lied, she never tried to misled and  the best way to honour her actions, her struggle, is to tell the truth, all of it.

 

 

Edited December 3, 2024 by Andrewbassg

[MBT808]

11 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said:

WG owes her a TON and then some

I mean it’s fair to say that Mouses reviews led to a premium ships sales for certain ships being higher than they otherwise would’ve been. Mainz is a perfect example, I literally bought her on Mouses recommendation and I know others did to cause the number Mainz appearing after the review dropped exploded.

Edited December 3, 2024 by MBT808

[Andrewbassg]

1 minute ago, MBT808 said:

I mean it’s fair to say that Mouses reviews led to a premium ships sales for certain ships being higher that they otherwise would’ve been. Mainz is a perfect example, I literally bought her on Mouses recommendation and I know others did to cause the number Mainz appearing after the review dropped exploded.

Yes, of course. But I actually meant for the Yukon debacle. I would say that her reviews would be the "icing on the cake" if that  wouldn't be a highly derogatory term, given the dedication, passion and high quality work that she put into them.

[MBT808]

49 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said:

Yes, of course. But I actually meant for the Yukon debacle. I would say that her reviews would be the "icing on the cake" if that  wouldn't be a highly derogatory term, given the dedication, passion and high quality work that she put into them.

Agreed. Yukon debacle, in my opinion, was easily the worst or at least in the top five worst debacles in the games history. It did sooooooooooo much damage to the community relations aspect and basically sunk WGs reputation almost completely.

[Admiral_Karasu]

17 minutes ago, MBT808 said:

Agreed. Yukon debacle, in my opinion, was easily the worst or at least in the top five worst debacles in the games history. It did sooooooooooo much damage to the community relations aspect and basically sunk WGs reputation almost completely(though it would continue to degrade further from then on).

Everybody lost out over it.

[Daniel_Allan_Clark]

53 minutes ago, Andrewbassg said:

She never lied, she never tried to misled and  the best way to honour her actions, her struggle, is to tell the truth, all of it.

LWM's actions throughout remind me of a saint.

Through all of the struggle and lies being thrown around, she hesitated to speak anything bad about WG for a long...long...LONG time. Far longer than almost anyone else would possibly wait. Even when she did make angry reviews (remember the Puerto Rico review?)...it was always with an eye towards helping WG improve their game and the business.

I remember telling her of my fears that what WG was doing would break her...and she told me she was strong enough and to not worry. It was astonishing, in a way.

Given all that has happened, she really owes us nothing at this point. All of that work cost her a lot...and if her decision is to step away, that is fine. After all, her name is as divisive and hateful to WG staff as Flamu, at the moment.

And while I can make fun of the rabid reaction to Flamu by certain folks...seeing it applied to LWM just makes me sad.

[HogHammer]

Good day, everyone.  There is nothing like waking up and finding a bunch of reported messages to start one's day off.

First, let me say this.  @LittleWhiteMouse and @Chobittsu are part of the original DevStrike staff.  In our rules and guidelines, it states:

• Don't call out Community Managers and Officials in thread titles.  PERIOD!  If you have an issue with any of the staff, submit a support ticket.  Any issues or negative comments in the discussion of any staff in the forum are uncalled for.

The original post had nothing to do with the past actions by any party and was a legitimate question.

Unfortunately, I had to hide several messages in this thread that were completely off the original topic and totally uncalled for.

[MBT808]

12 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

And while I can make fun of the rabid reaction to Flamu by certain folks...seeing it applied to LWM just makes me sad.

People disliking or even hating Flamu is at least somewhat understandable. While he does quite well when it comes to ship evaluation, as a human being I think he leaves a lot to be desired. He’s not someone I’d ever hang out with personally.

[Wolfswetpaws]

1 minute ago, HogHammer said:

Good day, everyone.  There is nothing like waking up and finding a bunch of reported messages to start one's day off.

First, let me say this.  @LittleWhiteMouse and @Chobittsu are part of the original DevStrike staff.  In our rules and guidelines, it states:

• Don't call out Community Managers and Officials in thread titles.  PERIOD!  If you have an issue with any of the staff, submit a support ticket.  Any issues or negative comments in the discussion of any staff in the forum are uncalled for.

The original post had nothing to do with the past actions by any party and was a legitimate question.

Unfortunately, I had to hide several messages in this thread that were completely off the original topic and totally uncalled for.

Well said.

[SolitudeFreak]

3 minutes ago, HogHammer said:

The original post had nothing to do with the past actions by any party and was a legitimate question.

Do you happen to know if she has said anything about whether or not she is still playing and/or posting about the game?

[Andrewbassg]

8 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

LWM's actions throughout remind me of a saint.

Through all of the struggle and lies being thrown around, she hesitated to speak anything bad about WG for a long...long...LONG time. Far longer than almost anyone else would possibly wait. Even when she did make angry reviews (remember the Puerto Rico review?)...it was always with an eye towards helping WG improve their game and the business

Because that's what she actually wanted. A positive result and a change. But she is very much human. 🙂

11 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

All of that work cost her a lot...

Yes, this things, struggles takes a lot from people. I just "synced"  between EU and NA and got burnt out good, let alone her...