Festive certificate and Superships

[WES_HoundDog]

So i read somewhere you get a festive certificates for tier 10 and superships (even though i can't find it now).         This is the first i'm i'm even looking at superships.   Looks like they cost around 40-50mill credits.  So all i have to do is buy the things to collect a handful more certificates?  I mean other than get needed xp for festive rewards on other ships.     

 

I'm pretty sure that's how it works if not please say so.   However, I'm really curious about..   If you sell a supership.   What do you get back?  No credits?  Some credits?

[Kynami]

T11 supers do not give certificates, instead they give additional steel. And what you get back for selling them is half the credits spent on them. This is not a worthwhile pursuit for a pittance of additional resources. Either you are collecting and keeping them, and thus get extra resources a couple times a year. Or you just don't interact with them.

[Admiral_Karasu]

8 hours ago, Kynami said:

T11 supers do not give certificates, instead they give additional steel. And what you get back for selling them is half the credits spent on them. This is not a worthwhile pursuit for a pittance of additional resources. Either you are collecting and keeping them, and thus get extra resources a couple times a year. Or you just don't interact with them.

200 steel per super ship, to be exact. I'm not sure I'd want to spend tens and hundreds of millions just for that. Overall, the super ships are a very lucrative proposition but only when viewed from WG's perspective, which is not a very beneficial perspective from our point of view as players.

[tocqueville8]

If you buy and then sell a supership you'd be getting about 200 steel for 25M credits, plus and minus clan bonus. That's the equivalent of buying a discounted Stalingrad for about 2.5 billion credits.

Basically, get them if you want to play them or if you're sitting on more credits than you could possibly use, as might be the case if you've already grinded most tech-tree lines and largely play premium ships with a premium account. All the current superships together cost about 1B credits and won't afford you an extra steel ship for several years. They're a credit sink. Steel-wise, they're a very long-term investment.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

9 hours ago, WES_HoundDog said:

So i read somewhere you get a festive certificates for tier 10 and superships (even though i can't find it now). 

A source that you can no longer identify lied to you. 

@tocqueville8 has it right. 

22 minutes ago, tocqueville8 said:

All the current superships together cost about 1B credits and won't afford you an extra steel ship for several years. They're a credit sink. Steel-wise, they're a very long-term investment.

If your earn a fair bit from Ranked and Clan Battles, snowflakes and battle passes, getting them all might make the difference between having a steel ship vs not, or having a somewhat more expensive steel ship vs a cheaper one. But that's it.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:List_of_Ships 

14 superships = 2800 steel. 

It's the difference between getting the currently* most expensive steel ship (FDR) with a discount coupon or the cheapest one (Vallejo) without it.

(33K --> 24750 vs. 22000, a difference of 2750 steel.)

For the record, the coupon price of Vallejo is 16,500 steel, and as a hypothetical, assuming (a) the steel gains from superships remain constant and (b) no other steel earnings at all, this would take you six years to accumulate using only the flakes from all the supers.

 

* Counting only those ships permanently available in the Steel section of the Armory as of this post.

Edited December 2, 2024 by Ensign Cthulhu

[Justin_Simpleton]

On 12/1/2024 at 10:56 PM, WES_HoundDog said:

So i read somewhere you get a festive certificates for tier 10 and superships (even though i can't find it now).   

I read that too.

but my question is how good does my battle performance need to be to receive a festive certificate?

I earned 1141 BXP for this battle.

[Admiral_Karasu]

3 minutes ago, Justin_Simpleton said:

I read that too.

but my question is how good does my battle performance need to be to receive a festive certificate?

I earned 1141 BXP for this battle.

Huh? At tier X it's 600 BXP per ship.

[Justin_Simpleton]

4 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

Huh? At tier X it's 600 BXP per ship.

I guess they didn't mention that it is good only when clearing a snowflake.

[Admiral_Karasu]

2 minutes ago, Justin_Simpleton said:

I guess they didn't mention that it is good only when clearing a snowflake.

Extrapolating on what @Ensign Cthulhu said about you being able to farm snowflakes with tier 1 to 5 ships (meaning by farming BXP, not the snowflakes), I assume  the BXP you get on those tier X's even after clearing the snowflake should similarly still contribute to the task and help you clear snowflakes off the ships you have not yet cleared them off.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

17 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

Extrapolating on what @Ensign Cthulhu said about you being able to farm snowflakes with tier 1 to 5 ships (meaning by farming BXP, not the snowflakes), I assume  the BXP you get on those tier X's even after clearing the snowflake should similarly still contribute to the task and help you clear snowflakes off the ships you have not yet cleared them off.

Exactly. There's no need in the current system to ever clear the snowflake off a particular ship by playing it. You can just go on playing whatever you want, and every 1000 BXP you can clear a number of snowflakes that depends on how many ships you have in your port and get the rewards from those ships, whether they be festive certificates, steel, coal, or whatever gets given out at anniversary time.

[Justin_Simpleton]

17 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

I assume  the BXP you get on those tier X's even after clearing the snowflake should similarly still contribute to the task and help you clear snowflakes off the ships you have not yet cleared them off.

Yes, they do.  I've collected 63 festive rewards since clearing the 20 or so snowflakes.  I mistakenly thought that I could get some festive certificates by playing the only tier X ship I have on the EU account.  Now that I understand how this works, it was pretty silly of me to think a person could just grind away on a tier X and get the certificates.

[desmo_2]

You can only get 'festive certificates' once per Tier 10 ship.

You can continue to use that same Tier 10 ship (or ANY ship) to earn 'festive rewards', which can then be used to clear snowflakes from other ships without playing them.

'Festive certificates' and 'festive rewards' are different things.

Edited December 10, 2024 by desmo_2

[Verblonde]

2 hours ago, Justin_Simpleton said:

I mistakenly thought that I could get some festive certificates by playing the only tier X ship I have on the EU account.

You can, if you like: play whatever ship you like, as much as you like; while you can only knock the snowflake off that ship itself once, the BXP you earn goes towards earning festive rewards, which allow you to bag snowflakes from whichever other ships you want that still have them.

There's a counter thing that keeps track for you on the left of the main port screen.