Archerfish & Shinano Event - a Curious Task to Achieve

[Asym]

Oh Kay, as I've been working toward finishing this three phase event, the last phase caught my attention:  Destroy a Carrier:

Sounds interesting and a most difficult task - even in COOP....  I rarely get the opportunity....  But then, it struck me:

Notice in the Kill a Carrier that the Operations has an "orange dot"......which means, 1/2 of the value.

So, how exactly does one calculate killing 1/2 a Carrier.... 

It just struck me funny ~!

[MidnightPhoenix07]

Operations always round up at .5 or higher (so for example, 2 fires would credit as 1 but 3 would round up to 2). Or here, killing one carrier would credit as .5 but gets rounded up to 1 (but killing two would still only count as 1).

33 minutes ago, Asym said:

So, how exactly does one calculate killing 1/2 a Carrier.... 

Should be pretty obvious. You need to kill the carrier, but if it’s less than half hp it won’t count since that’s less than half a carrier.

Or maybe that’s their way of trying to sneak kill assists into missions?

[Taylor3006]

This is a weird one. There are no operations that have two carriers in them that I can think of. If you kill the carrier in one match, does that "half a carrier" carry over to the next if you get one in the next go around to make 1 carrier killed after getting two?  

Luckily the prize of a patch and a crate is no big deal so I can ignore it but if someone really wanted the patch, it could be really frustrating. It reminds me of the "nation/class specific" missions from a long time ago (ie kill 5 Russian cruisers or kill 5 US battleships). They were not particularly popular with the players. 

Just another reason that getting rid of the old forum was such a bad idea. The people who design the missions could look back and see what players thought of some of the stupider ideas they came up with. Looks like they have to relearn old lessons...  

[Wolfswetpaws]

 

"Not to worry, we are still flying half a ship."  -  Obi-Wan Kenobi

[Yedwy]

1 hour ago, Asym said:

Oh Kay, as I've been working toward finishing this three phase event, the last phase caught my attention:  Destroy a Carrier:

Sounds interesting and a most difficult task - even in COOP....  I rarely get the opportunity....  But then, it struck me:

Notice in the Kill a Carrier that the Operations has an "orange dot"......which means, 1/2 of the value.

So, how exactly does one calculate killing 1/2 a Carrier.... 

It just struck me funny ~!

Game counts the kill as half a step you either kill 2 in one battle or one apiece in two battles to get that step

[AdmiralThunder]

What gets me on those missions is it is just for Archerfish stuff. Why not give the option of a Shinano flag or patch. Both ships are the center of these 2 missions but the rewards are based just on the Sub. Don't like that.

[Mono_De_Mantequilla]

47 minutes ago, Taylor3006 said:

This is a weird one. There are no operations that have two carriers in them that I can think of. If you kill the carrier in one match, does that "half a carrier" carry over to the next if you get one in the next go around to make 1 carrier killed after getting two?  

Luckily the prize of a patch and a crate is no big deal so I can ignore it but if someone really wanted the patch, it could be really frustrating. It reminds me of the "nation/class specific" missions from a long time ago (ie kill 5 Russian cruisers or kill 5 US battleships). They were not particularly popular with the players. 

Just another reason that getting rid of the old forum was such a bad idea. The people who design the missions could look back and see what players thought of some of the stupider ideas they came up with. Looks like they have to relearn old lessons...  

there are two carriers to sink in Raptor Rescue,

[Asym]

18 minutes ago, MidnightPhoenix07 said:

Operations always round up at .5 or higher (so for example, 2 fires would credit as 1 but 3 would round up to 2). Or here, killing one carrier would credit as .5 but gets rounded up to 1 (but killing two would still only count as 1).

Should be pretty obvious. You need to kill the carrier, but if it’s less than half hp it won’t count since that’s less than half a carrier.

Or maybe that’s their way of trying to sneak kill assists into missions?

I "assumed" it "might" round up.   It just struck me as really funny;  because,  we play ops most nights and in Raptor Rescue, I am usually, in my Yodo and go after the initial carrier....  Now, since it is in range of most BB's, I get the kill some of the time (and, my clan mates are the most kill-stealing rascals around!)........but, it happens a lot that the BB's with the Raptor do most of the damage......

Ergo, my question will come into play one of these nights !

[Asym]

5 minutes ago, Mono_De_Mantequilla said:

there are two carriers to sink in Raptor Rescue,

Yes, there are...........but, we are a Division and my area of responsibility is the initial one and the later one usually gets whacked by the BB's that guard the Raptor....  Sometimes, I get the chance.  Rarely, do I get both....

thanks for the reminder though.

[MidnightPhoenix07]

28 minutes ago, Asym said:

It just struck me as really funny; 

Oh it is funny. But at least it's doable, unlike the couple of times I've seen caps/assists/defends missions with ops as an eligible mode. 

[AdmiralThunder]

So, ok. I'm done. Wow, I get an Archerfish Sub patch and an Archerfish Sub flag but nothing for the CV I had to use to do the mission and that is what the mission is about. I get it Archerfish is part of it but this should have either given flags and patches for both or you have the option to choose. I mean i did it like I do everything but what a waste of time.

Tip - for those who worry about killing a CV just take a CV to Co-op and go after it. Ignore everything else and just go attack the CV until it's dead. I used Kaga and it took one game. 4 torp runs and the bot Kaga was done. However, don't waste time because the minute that CV is almost dead everyone will try and snipe it out from under you and the longer you take to do it the closer teammates will be too it and it will be easier to snipe it on you. Luckily the 2 people in my game who tried were bad shots or I wouldn't have got it.

Spoiler

 

Edited November 27, 2024 by AdmiralThunder

[Asym]

16 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said:

So, ok. I'm done. Wow, I get an Archerfish Sub patch and an Archerfish Sub flag but nothing for the CV I had to use to do the mission and that is what the mission is about. I get it Archerfish is part of it but this should have either given flags and patches for both or you have the option to choose. I mean i did it like I do everything but what a waste of time.

et al...

I just finished it as well.  Using a Halland and ignoring the two other ships at my Cap....  So........if I can do and AT can do it, two different ways, this really stupid event is done...

[Taylor3006]

1 hour ago, Mono_De_Mantequilla said:

there are two carriers to sink in Raptor Rescue,

Oh yeah, forgot there was two but dang, one is way on the west side of the map and the other is on the NE side. Would take some real doing to get them both. 

[mashed68]

If you play ops you need to sink 2 carriers. They've always carried over and never needed to be done same game when its only giving half results like this. Seems simple enough. 

Edited November 27, 2024 by mashed68

[meatgrindr]

Don't we have like 2 months to do this CV kill?

 

[Wolfswetpaws]

2 hours ago, Taylor3006 said:

Oh yeah, forgot there was two but dang, one is way on the west side of the map and the other is on the NE side. Would take some real doing to get them both. 

Yes.
Perhaps it would help to sail a CV?

[Taylor3006]

Ok just completed the "kill a carrier" mission in operations. You only have to kill one CV to get credit so it is either a glitch or a mistake in the mission requirement. 

17 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

Yes.
Perhaps it would help to sail a CV?

Perhaps is I played CVs for anything other than spotting missions. Others may want to play them and it is a good idea if you like the ships. Personally I have zero interest in playing WoWP in WoWS.  

Edited November 28, 2024 by Taylor3006

[Nevermore135]

3 minutes ago, Taylor3006 said:

Ok just completed the "kill a carrier" mission in operations. You only have to kill one CV to get credit so it is either a glitch or a mistake in the mission requirement. 

Apparently the game rounds up when assigning progress to tasks in Operations, per the second post in this thread.

It appears to be working as intended, just not as expected.

[Taylor3006]

Just now, Nevermore135 said:

Apparently the game rounds up when assigning progress to tasks in Operations, per the second post in this thread.

It appears to be working as intended, just not as expected.

Ahh ok, that makes sense. Thanks Nevermore. 

[Wolfswetpaws]

11 minutes ago, Taylor3006 said:

Ok just completed the "kill a carrier" mission in operations. You only have to kill one CV to get credit so it is either a glitch or a mistake in the mission requirement. 

Perhaps is I played CVs for anything other than spotting missions. Others may want to play them and it is a good idea if you like the ships. Personally I have zero interest in playing WoWP in WoWS.  

Thanks for sharing your findings.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

1 hour ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

Perhaps it would help to sail a CV?

The CV is very often not the one to kill its counterpart, only providing the spotting damage! 

[Wolfswetpaws]

17 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

The CV is very often not the one to kill its counterpart, only providing the spotting damage! 

Perhaps.
That said, I was merely thinking that a CV's planes could fly to both of the red-team CV's in the Raptor Rescue Scenario Operation.

Otherwise, someone will need to gain line-of-sight for the battleships or cruisers which have sufficient main-gun range?

[meatgrindr]

  I happen to be still grinding through T9 Encounter, and just now pulled Operation Raptor Rescue, and somehow managed to bag both CV's, "mission complete" lol.  I already have my lottery ticket for the week, so now what?

[Aethervox]

3 hours ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

The CV is very often not the one to kill its counterpart

... unlike in RTS CV times 😒, just 'sayin' 😁.

[Aethervox]

10 hours ago, Asym said:

Destroy a Carrier

Is this thrown in just so Wedgie can barf out, "See, we aren't reworked CV biased." (asking for a friend 😁)