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I get nice camo from voyage container for Hakaryu

So am little short XP from Skokaku to Hakaryu, so okej, I play CV games, do okej.... get XP done.

Now need silver.

So i bring out Missouri.

Every
Single
Team
Have
Be
Full
Of
Inbred
People.


4 matches in a row oftotal wipeout.
All 4 of my teams had 7....SEVEN.... SEPT... SEDAM
or more players under 45 %
I even had a team with 4...FOUR...ĆETIRI player under 38 %
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Mind you is not player with maybe under 500 game. Was a player with over 7000 match and 37 %

EVERY GAME HAVE BE TOTAL KILL.

my team lucky to kill one of enemy team.

Is like....nobody tries anymore.

I uninstall.
I am done until something change.
Losing is not fun.
Always Losing by a facestomp is irritating.

 

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Streaks happen. Simple unfortunate truth in how the numbers work. And your only major reliable thumb to place on the matchmaking is to queue up as part of a division. And even then you can be handed a losing game now and then.

Its a team game and unfortunately the human brain is wired to be absolutely angry and fixated on when things go wrong. But realistically for most players at least 40% of their games are outside of their ability to recover. Shrug, dust yourself off, and move on. Yeah it sucks when the streak is losses, but for every time you had a really nice 5+ game win streak the other team was losing. And some of those players likely were in the middle of a loss streak.

Best thing you can do if repeat losses hit your mental hard is simply take a break after a couple losses in a row. It is much easier to perform well and carry a team to victory when you are not lugging around the baggage of cynical expectations from the last couple games running.

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Frustration is a strong. 

A break usually helps.  Total Nukage is very final.

Hope to see you in another game soon.

Col Out

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I play randoms. It's a place where you can become tilted. 

Unfortunately, I cannot share the sentiments of others when they say 'relax', 'take a break', etc. The only cure is the destruction of nearby household items.

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No wonder when there's unicum divisions flying around against 5k Kurfurst game people who run double bingo builds.

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Many of us started in PVP.  But, the game left us at the Cruiser Line Split (the Radar farming period) that drove hundreds of us to quite the game or flee to COOP/Ops/ASB's. 

We never came back because we believe that this mature game, with a very low population, has created a Left Skewed population for a dumb MM to choose from.....  And that, creates much more stomps than "good matches..."   It statistics and it can't be avoided...  Take a look:

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        New players              Average players          Veteran Players.

The MM results are inevitably going to produce cascading error matches....  Stomps are the first symptom of a skill density shift.  Too many vets and the rest simply get massacred - even if they try real hard.  Then, the Noobs leave the game and average player simply get tired of endless stomps and flee to PVE. 

And, there we are to this day.  Can't beat the math.......cause the MM doesn't look at skill (that, we can't even define.......)

You are more than welcome to join our OPS division at night.  We do insist on visitors using Discord.  If I am on, simply ask....  We normally run 4 player divs....and, with guests, up to 7.

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RNG is not win one - lose one - win one - lose one. 
 

Random outcomes come out in streaks as often as not. 
 

Your complaint about four game losses in a row on teams with perhaps subpar players is without mathematical merit. 
 

I run either win or loss streaks all the time and shrug it off. Play again on another day. 

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Co-op has the winrate you want. Progress is slower, but sanity is higher.

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We all have losing streaks. The better you play overall, the more wins you will have. 

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15 minutes ago, Klebs said:

RNG is not win one - lose one - win one - lose one. 
 

Random outcomes come out in streaks as often as not. 
 

Your complaint about four game losses in a row on teams with perhaps subpar players is without mathematical merit. 
 

I run either win or loss streaks all the time and shrug it off. Play again on another day. 

I think it's virtually impossible to detect any pattern when it comes to battle results. It's literally random since it's not even something as predictable as a coin toss, because every battle contains hundreds if not thousands of random occurrences and what we see on the summary page is the sum of all that.

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Be aware that this game is now flooded with bots.

High number of games and low win rates is what gives them away.

Without bots in Randoms, WG would have a hard time convincing players that the game is still healthy.

So, just play and be sure not to spend real money on the game.

It is not a competitive game.

Win or lose, just take enjoyment in your own personal achievements.

For example, yesterday I took an Agir into Random matches. I lost twelve games in a row, but each time I was top or in top three. I survived until the end in those games, but half of them lasted eight minutes or less! That is the reality for WoWS these days.

It is in an unhealthy state, and the company is desperately pushing out copy pasta ships to milk the player base.

 

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3 hours ago, Lady Anesjka said:

I get nice camo from voyage container for Hakaryu

So am little short XP from Skokaku to Hakaryu, so okej, I play CV games, do okej.... get XP done.

Now need silver.

So i bring out Missouri.

Every
Single
Team
Have
Be
Full
Of
Inbred
People.


4 matches in a row oftotal wipeout.
All 4 of my teams had 7....SEVEN.... SEPT... SEDAM
or more players under 45 %
I even had a team with 4...FOUR...ĆETIRI player under 38 %
image.thumb.png.cc2d520dac209c967a83347c84a44c6d.png


Mind you is not player with maybe under 500 game. Was a player with over 7000 match and 37 %

EVERY GAME HAVE BE TOTAL KILL.

my team lucky to kill one of enemy team.

Is like....nobody tries anymore.

I uninstall.
I am done until something change.
Losing is not fun.
Always Losing by a facestomp is irritating.

 

Sad to hear you had a tough day, @Lady Anesjka.
Hope to continue to see you here, at least.
And, if I am lucky, might see you in a game, someday. 
After the loan-sharks finish beating your team-mates like they owe money, perhaps? 

Best wishes for your happiness, @Lady Anesjka.  😉 

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My last 7 days on Asia.

 

Streaks happen.

7 days on Asia.jpg

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2 hours ago, majmac said:

 

Be aware that this game is now flooded with bots.

 


my apologies that this question deviates from the posted topic  

I would be interested in bot evidence to support the claim that bots are everywhere. 
 

I do not run mods detailing player statistical capabilities.
 

Most of the time I find there is a real player behind the ship playing poorly which I ask in chat if they are a bot. They respond in a realistic manner in chat or by seemingly improved performance. 

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5 hours ago, Lady Anesjka said:

Every
Single
Team
Have
Be
Full
Of
Inbred
People.

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Ferdinand II of Holy Roman Emperor, Mariana of Austria, Philip IV of Spain, Charles II of Spain.

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1 hour ago, Klebs said:


my apologies that this question deviates from the posted topic  

I would be interested in bot evidence to support the claim that bots are everywhere. 
 

I do not run mods detailing player statistical capabilities.
 

Most of the time I find there is a real player behind the ship playing poorly which I ask in chat if they are a bot. They respond in a realistic manner in chat or by seemingly improved performance. 

Try these discussions:

https://discord.com/channels/669128285527080961/1291783336553087046

https://discord.com/channels/669128285527080961/1280375035512750131

https://discord.com/channels/669128285527080961/1272427371764645898

Evidence? Well, WG keeps that hidden, but as you read through these and other threads you will notice the recurring theme.

And, you can buy accounts of ready-made ships and resources on ASIA and CHN. Probably on EU and NA also.

Just dig around.

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The botting on Asia isn't just automated play. I have it on good authority some players on the mainland (take a guess which one) operate internet cafes with PC's setup running wows 24/7. Kids come in and pay to play. It's apparently a lucrative earner. Thats on top of the accounts sales market.

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24 minutes ago, UnderTheRadarAgain said:

The botting on Asia isn't just automated play. I have it on good authority some players on the mainland (take a guess which one) operate internet cafes with PC's setup running wows 24/7. Kids come in and pay to play. It's apparently a lucrative earner. Thats on top of the accounts sales market.

And it is not limited to one. That practice is replicated in other countries and it really is a lucrative business. The internet cafe is now the arcade shop. After a customer pays the cashier he goes to a PC already running the game, and all he has to do is click the Battle! button. 

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7 hours ago, Lady Anesjka said:

4 matches in a row oftotal wipeout.

Just 4? Not to diminish your experience but that is perfectly normal.

I've seen try hards with 5-8 losing streaks. I've seen highly competent players in a division suffer the same number of losing streaks at Tier X (they then go to lower tiers and play Kamikaze and Giulio Cesare to club seals).

Me, the longest losing streak I had in Random Battles was 13, with the Schlieffen. This happened when I was trying to get that Elite Emblem for Germany. I guess at that time the queue was simply full of casuals who don't care about winning. I charged it to experience, focusing on other aspects of the game like trying to survive for as long as I can and deal damage as much as I can. 

But the following day, I made an astonishing 11 Random Battle win streak still using the same ship, and during the same hours of the day.

That's just the nature of the product. 

Or it could be Wargaming's Dynamic Matchmaking at work. When one has been in a losing or winning streak, it will pair you with players who are either on the upper limit or lower limit of your performance. That way the player will not be bored or made complacent with winning streaks or discouraged or disheartened to play due to losing streaks.

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10 hours ago, Lady Anesjka said:

I get nice camo from voyage container for Hakaryu

So am little short XP from Skokaku to Hakaryu, so okej, I play CV games, do okej.... get XP done.

Now need silver.

So i bring out Missouri.

Every
Single
Team
Have
Be
Full
Of
Inbred
People.

 

I swear I was not one of those inbreds, I don't have an account on the NA server yet.

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I feel your pain! On a losing streak since 5 days myself despite decent / good gameplay. My WR is free falling, and to the other players I seem to be a bad player although ranking high in 95 % of my recently (lost) randoms. I have given up on randoms, because I know that good gameplay is not getting rewarded IMHO. To compensate for the current streak I have to play for months ... if I'm lucky. 

Consequence: I don't bother any longer about team ( - play), performance etc. and will just play as I like. The game "hates" me, why should I show responsibility and commitment any longer?!

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1 hour ago, OT2_2 said:

I feel your pain! On a losing streak since 5 days myself despite decent / good gameplay. My WR is free falling, and for the other players I seem to be a bad player although ranking high in 95 % of my recent (lost) randoms. I have given up on randoms, because I know that good gameplay is not getting rewarded IMHO. To compensate for the current streak I have to play months ... if I'm lucky. 

Consequence: I don't bother any longer about team ( - play), performance etc. and will just play as I like. The game "hates" me, why should I show responsibility and commitment any longer?!

Well... I'd say you should play the way that feels most effective for you. I have, let's call it limited game play abilities myself, so often that means rather playing in a way that contributes to the team at the cost of trying to be an effective damage dealer. Like, in a DD I try to play opportunistically, not directly challenging red DD's for caps or otherwise unless I get caught by surprise. Rather using torps when I can and keeping the enemy ships spotted.

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I can totally relate to the OP's anger and frustration.

Update by update, the fantastic WG game design team has been stripping skilled players of the tools and options that are instrumental in carrying the battles by "improving" or completely removing respective game mechanics — so as to make the game more and more forgiving to the unskilled players.

As of now, a lot of good players either left the game because they could not tolerate the constant babywalking of potatoes at their expense any longer, or switched to playing in PvE modes all the time or most of time.

I personally am from the latter group. Right now, StarTrek ops are just effing great in terms of fun AND credits.  Moreover, you are still able to carry an op single handed if need be — just like in the good old CBT days when the game felt like it was made for those who can play rather than for those who can pay.

 

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1 minute ago, 100 Krakens said:

for those who can play rather than for those who can pay.

Totally agree with this. Operations such as Star Trek reinforces that well.

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