Designs pulled from out of the archives.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

I wonder if WG knows about the Lyon-class (T.VII) variant detailed in this thread on another forum: https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/french-lyon-class-battleship-design-found-in-km-archives.44836/

Single image pasted for context:

Basically the same armament (lots of secondaries, hint hint Weegee), but with the awkward turret placement changed to something more reasonable and familiar. I suspect if we had been given Tier VIII premium Picardie in this layout, she might have been viewed with more enthusiasm as she would correct one of Lyon's biggest frustrations and might sit better at the higher tier.

Go over and have a read.

Edited November 20, 2024 by Ensign Cthulhu

[Wolfswetpaws]

1 hour ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

I wonder if WG knows about the Lyon-class (T.VII) variant detailed in this thread on another forum: https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/french-lyon-class-battleship-design-found-in-km-archives.44836/

Single image pasted for context:

Basically the same armament (lots of secondaries, hint hint Weegee), but with the awkward turret placement changed to something more reasonable and familiar. I suspect if we had been given Tier VIII premium Picardie in this layout, she might have been viewed with more enthusiasm as she would correct one of Lyon's biggest frustrations and might sit better at the higher tier.

Go over and have a read.

Ummm.  Don't we already have the VII Lyon in-game, now?

What's different or special about the one in depicted in your included drawing?

[Frakagin]

1 minute ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

Ummm.  Don't we already have the VII Lyon in-game, now?

What's different or special about the one in depicted in your included drawing?

Basically a superfiring forward turret (current Lyon has a midship turret with restricted firing angles)

[Wolfswetpaws]

1 minute ago, Frakagin said:

Basically a superfiring forward turret (current Lyon has a midship turret with restricted firing angles)

Okay...
But, if what I read (via the provided link, to a topic on another entirely different forum discussion) was right, some of these designs were only drawn on paper.  And some of those might be drawings made via reports from intelligence gathering, and might be imperfect or unreliable.
Which ones were actually constructed?
Which tier of World of Warships should we consider for one or more of these ship proposals?

[Nevermore135]

51 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

Which ones were actually constructed?
 

None of the Lyon-class were laid down, being canceled with the outbreak of WW1.

Edited November 20, 2024 by Nevermore135

[Ensign Cthulhu]

4 hours ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

Ummm.  Don't we already have the VII Lyon in-game, now?

What's different or special about the one in depicted in your included drawing?

If you go to the link, the image just below this one shows the layout we get in game. I limited myself to the one because I didn't want to overdo posting other people's content here.

[Wolfswetpaws]

3 hours ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

If you go to the link, the image just below this one shows the layout we get in game. I limited myself to the one because I didn't want to overdo posting other people's content here.

As mentioned in my other post, I did visit the link and read the other forum's topic (enough to get the gist of things, at least).

What would we call another variation of the Lyon?  Leon?

  
 

Edited November 20, 2024 by Wolfswetpaws

[invicta2012]

30 minutes ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

What would we call another variation of the Lyon?  Leon?

Lille? She was the second ship of the class, the name wasn't re-used (unlike Duquesne or Tourville). 

The problem with Lyon, for me, is that smokestack... it's a Richelieu trunked stack on a ship with a midships turret which leaves no space for a central boiler room, and it's *far* too close to the bridge and gunnery tower. If the wind is blowing from astern that whole tower is just full of smoke.  Superfiring turrets and properly spaced funnels make so much more sense for a design from the coal-powered era. 

[SkullCowboy]

21 hours ago, Wolfswetpaws said:

Which ones were actually constructed?

If we worried about that the game would have half (or less) of the current ship count.

AWESOME flick.

[Ensign Cthulhu]

25 minutes ago, SkullCowboy said:

If we worried about that the game would have half (or less) of the current ship count.

 

The US does best tech-tree wise, with Des Moines, Gearing, Midway, Worcester, Balao and Essex (formerly T9) all being built in steel, but all the tech tree battleships vanish and only Wisconsin stays on a technicality. Japan would be the only nation with a tech-tree battleship at T10, but she would have a gap at Tiers 8 and 9.

I do not think there is a single nation with a full cruiser line from 1 to 10 built in steel. Even before the US split, Phoenix was a paper ship.

[Aethervox]

On 11/20/2024 at 5:22 AM, Ensign Cthulhu said:

I wonder if WG knows about the Lyon-class (T.VII) variant detailed in this thread

Good of you to post this, however, do you think War Failing will add anything like this? I doubt it.