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WHAT The Hell Is Going On With Ipirangs Captain


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This the first time I have logged into the game since the new patch and my Captain on the Pan American BB is no longer there.

Then when I go to put a Captain on it the recall button is available and my Captain now has to be retrained because now he is a cruiser Captain.

What BS is this by WG !!!!! 

 

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The ship was in early access so it functioned kind of like a premium in that you could assign any captain to the ship without training. Now that the ship line is live, you have to assign him normally using ECXP or doubloons. Or you could just grind him with the ship. It is only 5k so doubloons is not the best choice. Just use your ECXP. 

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1 hour ago, Taylor3006 said:

The ship was in early access so it functioned kind of like a premium in that you could assign any captain to the ship without training. Now that the ship line is live, you have to assign him normally using ECXP or doubloons. Or you could just grind him with the ship. It is only 5k so doubloons is not the best choice. Just use your ECXP. 

Yeah I know the Captain is not all that high which is OK but it kind of hit me as very surprising as I don't remember having to retrain any other early access ships like the the pan European DD's for instance or did we ? or the British DD's unless WG has changed the policy.

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43 minutes ago, tm63au said:

Yeah I know the Captain is not all that high which is OK but it kind of hit me as very surprising as I don't remember having to retrain any other early access ships like the the pan European DD's for instance or did we ? or the British DD'd unless WG has changed the policy.

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Yes you did. Originally captains got retrained for free onto the ship when it left early access, which was good for the players that wanted the captain on that ship but bad for the players that forgot to take it off the ship before early access ended (or didn’t know to). Plus that cut into the doubloon/ecxp/time sink that is retraining captains, so WeeGee bean counters probably didn’t like it.

A number of years ago now, WG changed how captains were handled in the early access -> full release process. Captains acquired with or recruited for the ships stayed on them, but captains assigned to them from other ships were sent to the reserve. If you want to keep the captain on the ship, you’ll need to retrain it once the ship leaves early access.

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5 hours ago, MidnightPhoenix07 said:

Yes you did. Originally captains got retrained for free onto the ship when it left early access, which was good for the players that wanted the captain on that ship but bad for the players that forgot to take it off the ship before early access ended (or didn’t know to). Plus that cut into the doubloon/ecxp/time sink that is retraining captains, so WeeGee bean counters probably didn’t like it.

A number of years ago now, WG changed how captains were handled in the early access -> full release process. Captains acquired with or recruited for the ships stayed on them, but captains assigned to them from other ships were sent to the reserve. If you want to keep the captain on the ship, you’ll need to retrain it once the ship leaves early access.

For a while there existed a state in between the extremes, where commanders assigned to EA ships remained on those ships and functioned as if they were trained for the newly tech tree ship despite maintaining their original assignment. You wouldn’t see any prompts for retraining commanders until you attempted to move them to any ship except the one listed in their profile (including when trying to move them back to the former EA ship). That was years ago, though.

WG’s current practice of automatically moving the captain to reserve seems to be aimed at closing that loophole/exploit.

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6 hours ago, tm63au said:

or did we ?

Yes, we did. Ever since I can remember.

22 minutes ago, Nevermore135 said:

For a while there existed a state in between the extremes, where commanders assigned to EA ships remained on those ships and functioned as if they were trained for the newly tech tree ship despite maintaining their original assignment.

I remember that! I moved him out to a premium and back to his "new" ship, and that's when the retraining hit!!! Should have left well enough alone and enjoyed my free ride!

22 minutes ago, Nevermore135 said:

WG’s current practice of automatically moving the captain to reserve seems to be aimed at closing that loophole/exploit.

It was more aimed at ruling out the angst of having left a 19 point captain (as they then were) in a ship when it went live and finding him reassigned to that ship when you woke up the next morning and needing to be retrained. The safest thing to do to avoid such disappointments was to mark all EA ships about to go live and kick their captains out to reserve without reassignment. 

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8 hours ago, tm63au said:

WHAT The Hell Is Going On With Ipirangs Captain
This the first time I have logged into the game since the new patch and my Captain on the Pan American BB is no longer there.

Then when I go to put a Captain on it the recall button is available and my Captain now has to be retrained because now he is a cruise Captain.

What BS is this by WG !!!!! 

 

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As others have explained ...
The Pan-American Battleship early-access event has ended.
The ships are now tech-tree or premium (depending upon the ship)
The Commanders were automatically sent to the Reserve Barracks at the time of the change-over (from early access to normal tech-tree).
The Commanders may need to be trained (re-trained?) for the ship you wish them to be the Captain of.

Welcome to 2024

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FWIW I tuned in to the German-language part of the EU WG Thursday stream, and as near as I can interpret, people are asking the same question. 

Now I don't speak German, but the words "Ipiranga" and "Kapitan" appearing in the same sentence are strongly suggestive. 🤔

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A 7 point captain while you have 11 million [!!!!!!!!] captain XP to use.....

Imagine all the guys who got the unique captain and free xp'd him to 21pts and have to retrain now 

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4 hours ago, mashed68 said:

Imagine all the guys who got the unique captain and free xp'd him to 21pts and have to retrain now 

Ouch 

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5 hours ago, mashed68 said:

A 7 point captain while you have 11 million [!!!!!!!!] captain XP to use.....

Imagine all the guys who got the unique captain and free xp'd him to 21pts and have to retrain now 

If they had enough to get him to 21 points, they have the 300k to retrain him. 

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I put an ordinary 10 point on Ipiranga (one of the many spare collectibles) and retrained him for 15k ECXP. I saved the special dude for Libertad untouched. Will promote once he is on the ship.

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https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Commander  

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Moving / Retraining

Commander Retraining
Skill Points E/CXP Required
to Re-train
0 100
1 500
2 750
3 1,000
4 1,750
5 2,500
6 3,750
7 5,000
8 7,500
9 10,000
10 12,500
11 15,000
12 20,000
13 25,000
14 37,500
15 50,000
16 62,500
17 75,000
18 87,500
19 125,000
20 200,000
21 300,000

Once trained to a non-premium ship from the tech-tree, a commander's skills can be used only on that tech-tree ship. (They can be used on premium ships. See below.) Moving to a new tech tree ship[6] requires the commander to retrain to that ship, which is usually accomplished by earning a certain amount of Commander XP in his new ship (see the table to the right). Normal commander training resumes once retraining has been accomplished.

Remember that while a Commander is re-training, skill effects are disabled.

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The Commander Retraining dialog.

When re-training is required, a commander is offered three options. He can spend:

  1. Doubloons 500, completing retraining instantly.
  2. an amount (see table) of ECXPElite Commander XP to complete retraining instantly.
  3. nothing, requiring him to earn an amount (see table) of Commander XP to fully retrain.


CXP and ECXP cannot be combined to complete retraining.

When a non-elite commander is re-training, CXP is earned but the 5% as Elite Commander XP is not earned.
Elite commanders earn experience as normal but it goes against the retraining cost rather than into the EXCP pool.

Retraining a commander costs much less CXP than recruiting a level 0 commander and training him to the same level.

Premium/Special Ships

A commander can be assigned to a premium/special ship of the same nation without undergoing re-training. His skills will function at full strength on the premium/special ship. Commander XP earned while assigned to a premium/special ship counts toward re-training on his specialized ship. This makes premium/special ships a great way to re-train commanders while avoiding retraining penalties. The commander can be moved back to his specialized ship without penalty.

Because commanders have a separate set of skills for each ship type — battleship, cruiser, destroyer, aircraft carrier — they can reasonably be moved to any premium/special ship. A commander with unused skill points can select skills while assigned to a premium/special ship of that type. See below.

Note that while a new commander can be recruited to a premium/special ship, an existing commander can never be re-trained to one.

 

 

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