Ramsalot Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 I have not played destroyers that much, and I got Black a long, long, long time ago. I played it a few times before, trying to do damage, you know - torps and guns and such. Well, I decided to give it another try today, redistributed skills on Halsey to include Radio Location and Swift in Silence, threw in 20% radar mod, and played it exclusively to ruin opposing team day and Holy Moly - thing goes at almost 40 knots and damn near impossible to catch in a bad spot. All you have to do is to keep your distance to radar ships and have a good feel on where the torps are coming from, it's small and agile to dodge those if you are on top of your game. I like this ship a lot now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfswetpaws Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 5 minutes ago, Ramsalot said: So, Black is actually pretty good I have not played destroyers that much, and I got Black a long, long, long time ago. I played it a few times before, trying to do damage, you know - torps and guns and such. Well, I decided to give it another try today, redistributed skills on Halsey to include Radio Location and Swift in Silence, threw in 20% radar mod, and played it exclusively to ruin opposing team day and Holy Moly - thing goes at almost 40 knots and damn near impossible to catch in a bad spot. All you have to do is to keep your distance to radar ships and have a good feel on where the torps are coming from, it's small and agile to dodge those if you are on top of your game. I like this ship a lot now. Indeed, the Black is pretty good. She's a nice variation of the Fletcher class Destroyers and mine is Captained by Commander Statue-of-Liberty. 🙂 Congrats. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsalot Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 Those are solo random battles with Black today... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonRoads Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 hour ago, Ramsalot said: Those are solo random battles with Black today... very impressive string of wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsalot Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 I like it a lot, this is true destroyer, I mean you can’t take Paolo Emilio or Friesland and expect them to pull the kind of duty Black can do for the team. Black can be the real dedicated DD for the team, spotting, smoke support, objective contesting, keeping other DDs at bay, I love it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatgrindr Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Solo? Wow, in a div this DD could be game-changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolGaming_Youtube Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 9 hours ago, Ramsalot said: I have not played destroyers that much, and I got Black a long, long, long time ago. I played it a few times before, trying to do damage, you know - torps and guns and such. Well, I decided to give it another try today, redistributed skills on Halsey to include Radio Location and Swift in Silence, threw in 20% radar mod, and played it exclusively to ruin opposing team day and Holy Moly - thing goes at almost 40 knots and damn near impossible to catch in a bad spot. All you have to do is to keep your distance to radar ships and have a good feel on where the torps are coming from, it's small and agile to dodge those if you are on top of your game. I like this ship a lot now. Black is perfect for exactly this kind of build and playstyle. Its strong with radar/smoke combo but balanced in other departments (sea mines etc). Its just like some others, Vampire II, Grönigen, T8 Premium Pan Asian (cant remember the name...), perfect machines to keep enemy team outa cap zones and secure the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBT808 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, OldSchoolGaming_Youtube said: Its strong with radar/smoke combo but balanced in other departments That’s pretty much the thing with her. Her radar and smoke are great, but you really pay for it in other areas such as having useless torps and bad guns relative to her competition. Generally speaking her radar is good, but Groningens hydro is much better for cap contesting(it lasts longer and covers most or the entire cap). she also has the same smoke and vastly superior guns to punish DDs that try to push into a cap. Black is basically just a support ship, you’re not really contesting the cap with your radar, you’re enabling friendly cruisers and secondary BBs with vision. By herself, Black is rather mediocre at cap contesting. She Needs the support of her team to do anything related to capping. Her radar doesn’t last long enough for her to really capitalize on it. I think she’s strongest in randoms where weaker players panic more often when Black radars them and subsequently make mistakes. She’s weaker in ranked where basically every tier IX team brings a Groningen(or they should be if they want to win). And most of the time those Groningen captains are actually good as well. Edited October 1 by MBT808 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yedwy Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 She s ok but long past her hayday imho 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djc_499 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 I well recall Flamu putting her into his "God Tier" classification from years ago, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolGaming_Youtube Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 18 minutes ago, djc_499 said: I well recall Flamu putting her into his "God Tier" classification from years ago, I think going by the high speed powercreep of this game I would say that opinion had an expiration date. These days I would say she's "mid level" going by his usual leveling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBT808 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, Yedwy said: She s ok but long past her hayday imho Pretty much. Smaland and Ragnar are essentially black without any of the downsides. Her reputation is her strongest weapon at this point, not her radar. Edited October 1 by MBT808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsalot Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 (edited) I love Black because it has mediocre weapon systems and I can take swift in silence and radio location without a second thought, and focus on team support rather than damage. I don't want to do that on Marceau and Friesland and sacrifice firepower, plus those ships have higher detect. So with such build Black becomes dedicated team support ship with all of its toolkit, including radar, as opposed to damage farming hunter killer that is more self focused. This makes Black very dangerous in my opinion, it is different mentality. Black lives for it's team. Edited October 1 by Ramsalot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utt_Bugglier Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 20 hours ago, Ramsalot said: Those are solo random battles with Black today... Only ten for twelve??? Totally unplayable!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDuckman Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Look for Black Black among the Black Friday sales. USN destroyers (like many other nations) were designed to work in groups. With the changes necessary for WoWs that is often lost. I'm glad to see that the power of ships working together is sometimes recognized. #teamOceanMap where if you don't work together you don't win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_Simpleton Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Okay, you guys talked me into getting the Black. It came with enough festive awards to let me get the super container with 50 Juliet Charlie signals. I guess I'm set. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsalot Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 (edited) I find that there are many, how do I put this, unfortunate players in WOWS. As in you are unfortunate if you get those players on your team. The kind of player that goes straight out AFKs at the start, or does some brilliant tactical move like moving in a circle or following autopilot across the map until some exceptional player manages to snipe them, or otherwise role plays someone with mental capabilities of a cast iron skillet. Such player can choose different class of ship to join the game, but in the case of high tier DD this hurts that individual team the most. At least on BB he gets to soak up some damage for the team while spotting. When you load into game on true high tier DD, as in not brain dead and blind like a bat smoke damage farmer, or visible from space run around the map like crazy maniac gun boat, you might have just saved your team from unfortunate player in a DD. That's not to say the other players on your team will play along, but at least you prevented one possible scenario... Edited October 1 by Ramsalot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashed68 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Its 5" American guns with smoke and radar, it would be hard for it NOT to be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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