Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Had a game this morning where the enemy triple division had an Immelman and two Wisconsins. The Immelman was able to hit my maneuvering CV with skip bombs, and the two Wisconsins were able to do enough damage in the subsequent CV spotting pass to sink my Midway. It was good play by them. I keep wondering why folks don't do it more often... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevermore135 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Last time I checked, Wisconsin was a tier X battleship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwastuesday Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) Immelmann is able to do it by itself. Better would be to have Immelmann - Komissar - Komissar Also people don't do it often since most carriers have enough deck armor to be impervious to long range bb sniping. Some people did it with IFHE shikishimas or somesuch if I recall correctly. Edited June 14 by Itwastuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 51 minutes ago, Itwastuesday said: Immelmann is able to do it by itself. Better would be to have Immelmann - Komissar - Komissar Also people don't do it often since most carriers have enough deck armor to be impervious to long range bb sniping. Some people did it with IFHE shikishimas or somesuch if I recall correctly. True, Immelman can do it by itself...just not as fast. Maybe this triple division didn't have access to Komissars. Regardless, it was fun to actually see people demonstrating that there are ways to deal with CVs other than whining. Of course, the chat following the snipe was toxic, which meant I then had to make a customer support ticket... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensign Cthulhu Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nevermore135 said: Last time I checked, Wisconsin was a tier X battleship. Daniel's sometimes a little remiss in the attention to detail department. Of course every now and then he says something absolutely spot-on: 36 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: Regardless, it was fun to actually see people demonstrating that there are ways to deal with CVs other than whining. One is given to wonder why there aren't more 899 divisions out there. One possible explanation these days is that although having a T8 CV in your division seems to protect against seeing a T10 CV, there's no guarantee that the 9's won't get pulled up to face superships, with the CV fail-divving alongside. (And if you think that won't happen, I've seen a Langley pulled up from Tier 4 to fail-div into a Tier 7 battle alongside his Tier 5 divmates. To his credit, he did exceedingly well relative to the rest of the team.) Kidd-Akizuki-Kidd divs don't carry that risk, but they're harder to pull off unless all three divmates (a) know what they're doing and (b) are co-ordinated in real time on voice comms. 36 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: Of course, the chat following the snipe was toxic, which meant I then had to make a customer support ticket... Normally it's the person who got sunk who is prolific with the salt. Or are you admitting that you said something so awful you felt obliged to report yourself? 😛 Edited June 14 by Ensign Cthulhu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwastuesday Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 38 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: Regardless, it was fun to actually see people demonstrating that there are ways to deal with CVs other than whining. By playing CV? What a way 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 4 minutes ago, Itwastuesday said: By playing CV? What a way 🙂 Welcome to World of Warships... It's not our game to control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navalpride33 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: Of course, the chat following the snipe was toxic, which meant I then had to make a customer support ticket... It happens, CV players can get salty when outplayed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Navalpride33 said: It happens, CV players can get salty when outplayed. It was the enemy Golden Lion, celebrating with some choice insults...probably because I was able to hit him hard with my first rocket strike and only lose three planes. We really need to stop assuming player behavior is driven by the choice of ship to captain... For the record, I was congratulatory to the enemy division, as I said earlier...I was happy to see folks going for the snipe. Edited June 14 by Daniel_Allan_Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArIskandir Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 3 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: I keep wondering why folks don't do it more often... How many times can you laugh on the same joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 Just now, ArIskandir said: How many times can you laugh on the same joke? Given the increasing number of bots in tier 5 matches these days... Seems like people have stopped enjoying the joke of a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utt_Bugglier Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 4 minutes ago, ArIskandir said: How many times can you laugh on the same joke? Like when an Omaha turns broadside to my GC??? Every damn time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwastuesday Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 4 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: Welcome to World of Warships... It's not our game to control. So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfswetpaws Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 A CV spotting targets for their team is good play. If the team-mates utilize the opportunity, then it is good play. Forming a division to do this is also good play, as far as I am concerned. Good play is not over-powered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted June 14 Author Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, Wolfswetpaws said: A CV spotting targets for their team is good play. If the team-mates utilize the opportunity, then it is good play. Forming a division to do this is also good play, as far as I am concerned. Good play is not over-powered. Amen. I wish people would focus more on this kind of approach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensign Cthulhu Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 19 hours ago, Itwastuesday said: By playing CV? What a way 🙂 Hey, it works. It's called fighting fire with fire. If you want to scream that SUB IS OP or CV IS OP but refuse to take up that power yourself, you are tying one hand behind your back. If you want to fight with one hand tied behind your back, be my guest. 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipcanuck Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 23 hours ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: Had a game this morning where the enemy triple division had an Immelman and two Wisconsins. The Immelman was able to hit my maneuvering CV with skip bombs, and the two Wisconsins were able to do enough damage in the subsequent CV spotting pass to sink my Midway. It was good play by them. I keep wondering why folks don't do it more often... The question that begs to be asked is.....did your side win or lose? I ask this because so many anti CV players say that a CVs presence IS (not might be!) the deciding factor. Yet Ive been in dozens of games where the team that loses its CV early still wins the match. While CV's can give a huge advantage, some CV players dont know how to provide that advantage and some other players dont know how to take advantage of the information a good scouting CV will give its team! Kudo's to you for being a good sport, and brave of you to drive a Midway.....I friggen HATE that ship, its easily my worst preforming CV that Ive played more than a handful of games in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 (edited) 34 minutes ago, hipcanuck said: The question that begs to be asked is.....did your side win or lose? I ask this because so many anti CV players say that a CVs presence IS (not might be!) the deciding factor. Yet Ive been in dozens of games where the team that loses its CV early still wins the match. While CV's can give a huge advantage, some CV players dont know how to provide that advantage and some other players dont know how to take advantage of the information a good scouting CV will give its team! Kudo's to you for being a good sport, and brave of you to drive a Midway.....I friggen HATE that ship, its easily my worst preforming CV that Ive played more than a handful of games in. Oh, we lost. The enemy had the only division in the game, and they were decently skilled. It was a slaughter. Midway is one of my favorite ships. It's the one I ground out my 21 point captain on. It's just so flexible and your planes are so survivable. Edited June 15 by Daniel_Allan_Clark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArIskandir Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 37 minutes ago, hipcanuck said: brave of you to drive a Midway.....I friggen HATE that ship, Wasn't Midway supposed to be the most versátile and one of the strongest CVs? What changed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 18 minutes ago, ArIskandir said: Wasn't Midway supposed to be the most versátile and one of the strongest CVs? What changed? Nothing. Some folks just don't like it or connect with how it plays. Like me with torpedo boats... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwastuesday Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 9 hours ago, Ensign Cthulhu said: Hey, it works. It's called fighting fire with fire. Or selling out? Collaborating? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 13 minutes ago, Itwastuesday said: Or selling out? Collaborating? Technically, we have all sold out to WG... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashed68 Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 On 6/14/2024 at 6:56 AM, Daniel_Allan_Clark said: I keep wondering why folks don't do it more often... A: because not everyone has access to people to make divisions with B: Your plan means we have to bring a CV to the match, making it 100% for sure we will also have to face a CV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Allan_Clark Posted June 15 Author Share Posted June 15 5 minutes ago, mashed68 said: A: because not everyone has access to people to make divisions with B: Your plan means we have to bring a CV to the match, making it 100% for sure we will also have to face a CV. A) True. B) Welcome to World of Warships. Carriers and subs are part of the game. Don't like that? Find another game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utt_Bugglier Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 23 hours ago, mashed68 said: B: Your plan means we have to bring a CV to the match, making it 100% for sure we will also have to face a CV. For which thing the plan specifically prepares you to deal with. Being in a division with the CV would also likely provide the benefit of favorable fighter drops for division mates. Your approach appears to been developed by that great AA strategist, Ben Dover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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