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Incredibly - WG changed DevBlog article after 1 day - Massachusetts and Musashi will NOt bet even moderate buff...

 

CHANGES TO SUBMARINES AND ASW, EXTERIOR SYSTEM UPDATE, AIRSHIP ESCORT AND MORE - CLOSED TEST 13.1

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/505

 

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Leo "Apollo11"

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What did we expect?

Ethical behavior?

Don't make me laugh.

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Well, I never had it so I suppose I'll not miss it.

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Thank you for notice... It is honestly disgracing what WG do with Massa... So, Thunderer which is far far away in sea can get buff (even rare he meet subs), but Massa can't? Just... Better I stop writing this before ban. 

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I guess that they don't want to make the Massy too OP. It already consistently does a bit better than average.

Massachusetts B U.S.A. 946 805 55.30 %
Massachusetts U.S.A. 2 670 142

53.60 %

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I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it any further - D. Vader

 

 

I think Wargaming just did this to the WoWS players. 

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1 hour ago, Snargfargle said:

I guess that they don't want to make the Massy too OP. It already consistently does a bit better than average.

Massachusetts B U.S.A. 946 805 55.30 %
Massachusetts U.S.A. 2 670 142

53.60 %

Nerfing its ASW performance because it has good AtoA and Surface performance is just silly BS

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43 minutes ago, Musket22 said:

Nerfing its ASW performance because it has good AtoA and Surface performance is just silly BS

Welcome to WoWs 'balancing.'

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44 minutes ago, Daniel_Allan_Clark said:

Welcome to WoWs 'balancing.'

And honesty in communication. I love this game, but people working on it earn nothing but my disdain.

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I am thankful for the OP as I was somewhat concerned my memory was going astray…clearly I can breathe easier. 

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3 hours ago, Snargfargle said:

I guess that they don't want to make the Massy too OP. It already consistently does a bit better than average.

Massachusetts B U.S.A. 946 805 55.30 %
Massachusetts U.S.A. 2 670 142

53.60 %

Remember that ships like Belfast, Lenin, Enterprise, and Georgia are also considered "OP", are among the top in win rates for their class and tier, but they get completely normal ASW airstrike range and no one bats an eye. Belfast in particular literally gets airstrikes while Fiji and Edinburgh get ship-mounted depth charges.

The same applies to tech tree ships. Ships that people consider OP like St. Vincent, Petropavlovsk, etc all have regular ASW and that was never controversial at any point.

ASW range was never, and should never be used as a balancing measure.

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Dont worry I suspect this is but the first of the "exceptions to the new rule" we shall see about this, its the usual WG "lipservice" to complaints about something they added ruining the gameplay...

In this concrete case - they extend the range of ASW but reduce the damage, not lije the subs already survive 20 drops right on their head before dying so they need to be able to take more, also there is a MINIMAL drop range and a good sub just shotguns hte guy cahsing and goes free...

And yes even I know how to do that so nobody can tell me its not like that

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7 hours ago, Snargfargle said:

I guess that they don't want to make the Massy too OP. It already consistently does a bit better than average.

Massachusetts B U.S.A. 946 805 55.30 %
Massachusetts U.S.A. 2 670 142

53.60 %

Only OP BB ship in T8 is Lenin. What is his ASW range??? 

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Recall that the Massy has long-range and accurate secondaries too. I sink a sub with mine every three of four matches, usually without even knowing what they are shooting at until the red ribbon comes up. Heck, make the ASW long-range too and automatic like CVs and the Massy will be a no-sub zone anywhere within 11 km of the ship.

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Dev-blogs and some other WG/WOWs publications often include the phrase "subject to change".

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this company has something against its own players, they love to do exactly opposite of what players tell them as feedback, I dont know why they do that

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I'm wondering if someone had too much eggnog at the Office, as they also had a typo in the article describing which Cruisers would be getting Submarine Surveillance consumables and had to correct that one.  Either they have someone new in the proofreading position or they -really- partied during the Holidays.

 

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16 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said:

Hi all,

Incredibly - WG changed DevBlog article after 1 day - Massachusetts and Musashi will NOt bet even moderate buff...

 

CHANGES TO SUBMARINES AND ASW, EXTERIOR SYSTEM UPDATE, AIRSHIP ESCORT AND MORE - CLOSED TEST 13.1

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/505

 

Original:

image.thumb.png.5b4377f969c1d420804457c500630b97.png

 

Current:

image.thumb.png.8c19441232db54783e10362f28805351.png

 

Leo "Apollo11"

I was not really surprised when i saw it, the last picture/screenshot i should have copyrighted 😉 i have seen it several places after i first posted it on Discord.

Their own Moderator/CC/CM or what ever they are called apparently did not know this so i think its a F up from WG`s side they are going to pretend not happened.

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WG correcting an error ahead of time is the only surprise here.

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16 hours ago, Snargfargle said:

I guess that they don't want to make the Massy too OP. It already consistently does a bit better than average.

Massachusetts B U.S.A. 946 805 55.30 %
Massachusetts U.S.A. 2 670 142

53.60 %

Well that's over.

Every single Sub driver will go for Massy First  whenever any other improved BB is around,  knowing that it can't do ANYTHING about it.

It's the WG NERF Hammer , and not very subtle either.

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13 minutes ago, Col_NASTY said:

Well that's over.

Every single Sub driver will go for Massy First  whenever any other improved BB is around,  knowing that it can't do ANYTHING about it.

It's the WG NERF Hammer , and not very subtle either.

WG......f9t789.gif.fab2feb94aca291b96fda825969dea87.gif

You're one of those guys who says at the beginning of the match, "Kill [insert ship name here] first!", aren't you?

If the range of ASW was the only factor, subs would already be singling Massachussets out.  So there's not going to be a change there.  Not to mention it's rather poor play to go after a specific ship to the detriment of your team, like destroyers ignoring spotting or capping to skirt around the edge of the map to kill the red team's CV.

I play my Mass regularly, and I don't feel particularly focused by subs.  Annoyed that she has crap ASW range, but she's not really a sub magnet.  In fact surfacing inside Mass' secondary range is a bad thing to do for a sub.

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22 minutes ago, Gasboy said:

You're one of those guys who says at the beginning of the match, "Kill [insert ship name here] first!", aren't you?

WOW how embarrassing for you.

Actually ANYONE who knows me knows I am the EXACT opposite of that.🤣

That's alI have to say about that.🤣

Dismissed.

For the rest of the people this part of the post was obviously passed over 

"whenever any other improved BB is around"

Any SMART player goes for the most vulnerable ships first.

But what do I know , I'm a Newb 😉

 

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6 minutes ago, Col_NASTY said:

WOW how embarrassing for you.

Actually ANYONE who knows me knows I am the EXACT opposite of that.🤣

That's alI have to say about that.🤣

Dismissed.

Then why would you say Mass is going to be targetted first?  Which is kinda unrealistic, except in those 'perfect' situations which rarely happen.

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7 hours ago, Jakob Knight said:

Either they have someone new in the proofreading position or they -really- partied during the Holidays.

This is par for the course with WG’s communications with the playerbase, no extenuating circumstances required.

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