Petition: Keep Asymmetric Battles as a Permanent Game PVE Mode

[xamdam]

Personally, I'm not a fan of the current COOP. 3~4mins of W key followed by a couple minutes of feeding frenzy. It's not fun in BBs watching your shells strike a target that just got devstruck by a DD (or 15 million other players shooting it) and it's not really that much fun being that DD or guy that had the right angle / spawn to do so.

Asymmetric gives enjoyment, and IMHO better practice for players that want to move into PVP later. The bot CVs, lower tier, aren't much of a problem and the lack of bot subs makes it just right for me. And I'm guessing, a good portion of the "older crowd" like me.

Have your say! And feel free to tag the CMs if you want. They may, or may not see this. WG may choose to completely ignore it... but it's worth a try. 

I do not partake in the official Discord or even Reddit anymore so here is where I'll post it.

[I_cant_Swim_]

Definitely support this. Keep Asymmetric Mode, please!

[xamdam]

@I_cant_Swim_ sticky bacon works too, if you like.

[AdmiralThunder]

I am all for more game mode options (as separate stand alone options NOT adding them to other modes like they did with arms race and escort - that sucks) so players can play the game how they want. WG should feel the same and only care that people are playing the game even though obviously they don't. Unfortunately, a petition here will only be a feel good thing for you OP. Won't matter to WG and probably not even be seen although at least one NA CM browses here.

Edited December 28, 2023 by AdmiralThunder

[xamdam]

1 minute ago, AdmiralThunder said:

I am all for more game mode options (as separate stand alone options NOT adding them to other modes like they did with arms race and escort - that sucks) so players can play the game how they want. WG should feel the same and only care that people are playing the game even though obviously they don't. Unfortunately, a petition here will only be a feel good thing for you OP. Won't matter to WG and probably not even be seen although at least one NA CM browses here.

I know. But it's worth a shot and all I've got. I know the one NA CM that browses here. He probably doesn't like me (or I him, for that matter) but it is a finger on the pulse thing...

[AdmiralThunder]

11 minutes ago, xamdam said:

I know. But it's worth a shot and all I've got. I know the one NA CM that browses here. He probably doesn't like me (or I him, for that matter) but it is a finger on the pulse thing...

[Wolfswetpaws]

2 hours ago, xamdam said:

Personally, I'm not a fan of the current COOP. 3~4mins of W key followed by a couple minutes of feeding frenzy. It's not fun in BBs watching your shells strike a target that just got devstruck by a DD (or 15 million other players shooting it) and it's not really that much fun being that DD or guy that had the right angle / spawn to do so.

Asymmetric gives enjoyment, and IMHO better practice for players that want to move into PVP later. The bot CVs, lower tier, aren't much of a problem and the lack of bot subs makes it just right for me. And I'm guessing, a good portion of the "older crowd" like me.

Have your say! And feel free to tag the CMs if you want. They may, or may not see this. WG may choose to completely ignore it... but it's worth a try. 

I do not partake in the official Discord or even Reddit anymore so here is where I'll post it.

I like Co-op and Asymmetric battles and Bacon.  🙂 
I could only vote for one at a time, though.  🙂 

[UnrepentantSinner]

Yes, i really want the Asymmetric battles to become a permanent game mode, but you had to bring bacon into the equation, so i really had no other choice as to pick that.

[xamdam]

3 minutes ago, UnrepentantSinner said:

Yes, i really want the Asymmetric battles to become a permanent game mode, but you had to bring bacon into the equation, so i really had no other choice as to pick that.

Cursed if you do, cursed if you don't...

 

[Ensign Cthulhu]

3 hours ago, xamdam said:

Asymmetric gives enjoyment,

Asymmetric stresses me out. I can count the number of live server asymmetric battles I've played on one hand, and ultimately I could have played two co-op battles in the time it took to do one Asymmetric and got the same total base XP, while not being so concerned about whether a stupid mistake or someone disconnecting/AFKing was going to cost my team the win. 

[thornzero]

Once you leave coop for PVP there is no going back [except to finish a mission criteria right quick]. Asymmetric? I'm not that excited about it. It could disappear and it wouldn't bother me. If people like it enough and it comes back after January, then good for them.

Honestly, I don't get all the excitement about coop. In the old forum there was more discussion about coop than Randoms, just like here. But Randoms are supposed to be the most popular mode. The first rule of Randoms is you do not talk about Randoms. LOL

Randoms and Ranked will give you an adrenaline rush at times. Something a bot really shouldn't do.

[xamdam]

17 minutes ago, thornzero said:

Once you leave coop for PVP there is no going back [except to finish a mission criteria right quick]. Asymmetric? I'm not that excited about it. It could disappear and it wouldn't bother me. If people like it enough and it comes back after January, then good for them.

Honestly, I don't get all the excitement about coop. In the old forum there was more discussion about coop than Randoms, just like here. But Randoms are supposed to be the most popular mode. The first rule of Randoms is you do not talk about Randoms. LOL

Randoms and Ranked will give you an adrenaline rush at times. Something a bot really shouldn't do.

My first 5K games were mainly PVP... Then came the CV rework, the subs... Nope, not going back so your theory is bunk! lol 🤣

Granted, never been a coop fan either. Operations with friends carried me through a few years but since they changed all that (and I switched "back" from the SEA server to here) Asym gives me something different to do. And have fun doing it.

I'm not going to dump on PVP. If you like it, all the better for you. I like Operations (wish there were more) and Asym. 

I will play ranked now and then though. Maybe a brawl or three. But if there are subs and CVs involved, nah. I'd rather not.

[xamdam]

1 hour ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

Asymmetric stresses me out. I can count the number of live server asymmetric battles I've played on one hand, and ultimately I could have played two co-op battles in the time it took to do one Asymmetric and got the same total base XP, while not being so concerned about whether a stupid mistake or someone disconnecting/AFKing was going to cost my team the win. 

Hmm. Maybe you should try a few more or at different times of the day with different ships. Normally BBs work well, especially secondary focused BBs.

I'm trying to complete a Dockyard stage for credits in cruisers. This is the result of the battle I just had. Yes... the team wasn't great, all died and I needed to take a second cap and kill 3 more ships alone but with some positioning and good old Salem I was able to pull out a win. And, it was fun.

14mins in battle, 1.8k bxp.

Edit: Just notice my second cap didn't register. It hit just as the score reached 1k. The last Takahashi was running from the cap. Maybe he reset me somehow (even though I was behind an island and rather low HP).

Edit 2: And looking at the other players on my team. The lowest PVP battles played was still over 1K more than my 5K. 31,024 for the 4 other players combined. While they didn't have what might be considered "gud" WRs, they certainly weren't new players (one guy had over 7K in coop as well). This tells me Asym is challenging, requires more thought and use of the minimap than regular coop. Which adds up to more fun for me. Something like the 7/2 coop battles we used to be lucky to get (or was it 9/2, I can't remember).

Edited December 28, 2023 by xamdam
Additional information

[Ensign Cthulhu]

5 hours ago, xamdam said:

Something like the 7/2 coop battles we used to be lucky to get

Seven and two (9-man team). That could get very hairy depending on which ship you had.

[Asym]

52 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

Seven and two (9-man team). That could get very hairy depending on which ship you had.

True !  You'd always get the freaking 2x9 in a DD that simply didn't have the carry power....  But, those 1x9 and 2x9 matches in a decent ship were really fun !

I am a little confused that you play Randoms;  and,  ASB's stress you?  I quite PVP because of Stomps being the norm....  ASB's have maybe a 20% chance of an implosion and the ones I lose in are only 20% of the time (and, my errors contributed to the loss....)

[Wolfswetpaws]

10 hours ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

Asymmetric stresses me out. I can count the number of live server asymmetric battles I've played on one hand, and ultimately I could have played two co-op battles in the time it took to do one Asymmetric and got the same total base XP, while not being so concerned about whether a stupid mistake or someone disconnecting/AFKing was going to cost my team the win. 

Sure, you can play two Co-op battles during the time it takes for one Asymmetric battle to be fought.
That said, each Co-op battle will cost you the service fee/charge for the ship you played.
One Asymmetric battle offers opportunity to score the same amount of damage and XP earned in your two Co-op battles, with only one service cost incurred.

As I said earlier, I like both modes.  Each is entertaining in their own way.  🙂 

[meatgrindr]

13 hours ago, xamdam said:

Dockyard stage for credits in cruisers

   I thought asym mode didn't work for those Dockyard credit missions.

  My gaming history is similar to yours- played almost exclusively PVP for the first number of years, but have in the last couple years transitioned over to PVE, meaning mostly co-op and some ops. 

   I'd like to see asym battles stay for good, but they need to be incorporated into the game properly, so the games count (listed under the profile tab for stats and such) and can be used for missions, sort of a parallel of co-op.  I don't see where the earnings/time period are that out of line compared to co-op and randoms.  I don't really expect that to happen.

[xamdam]

38 minutes ago, meatgrindr said:

   I thought asym mode didn't work for those Dockyard credit missions.

  My gaming history is similar to yours- played almost exclusively PVP for the first number of years, but have in the last couple years transitioned over to PVE, meaning mostly co-op and some ops. 

   I'd like to see asym battles stay for good, but they need to be incorporated into the game properly, so the games count (listed under the profile tab for stats and such) and can be used for missions, sort of a parallel of co-op.  I don't see where the earnings/time period are that out of line compared to co-op and randoms.  I don't really expect that to happen.

It didn't in the beginning but they added them at some point I think. It is working for stage 4 at least.

[meatgrindr]

3 hours ago, xamdam said:

It didn't in the beginning but they added them at some point I think. It is working for stage 4 at least.

Now wait a minute...wth?

 

[Kruzenstern]

Now that is interesting... For me, asymmetrics work too...

[Admiral_Karasu]

22 hours ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

Asymmetric stresses me out. I can count the number of live server asymmetric battles I've played on one hand, and ultimately I could have played two co-op battles in the time it took to do one Asymmetric and got the same total base XP, while not being so concerned about whether a stupid mistake or someone disconnecting/AFKing was going to cost my team the win. 

Why do you play with just one hand?

[torino2dc]

> No! They're boring and this game should be PVP focused!

For reference: if you want polls to be taken seriously, it is considered bad practice to load your answers like this. 

Folks may answer "no" for all sorts of reasons that you might not be able to imagine. If you want to bucket the reasons why someone might say "no", then ask for more detail in follow-up questions. 

[Ensign Cthulhu]

33 minutes ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

Why do you play with just one hand?

Ask yourself this:

1) Do you really want to know?

2) Do I really want to get myself permabanned by giving you the answer? 😈

[HogHammer]

48 minutes ago, Ensign Cthulhu said:

Ask yourself this:

1) Do you really want to know?

2) Do I really want to get myself permabanned by giving you the answer? 😈

I guess you are just plain "handy" around the household, too.  Nowadays that can be a special talent 🤣.

[Wolfswetpaws]

9 minutes ago, HogHammer said:

I guess you are just plain "handy" around the household, too.  Nowadays that can be a special talent 🤣.

And now back to our topic "Petition: Keep Asymmetric Battles as a Permanent Game PVE Mode"