How's Your Kitakami Resource Grind Going?

November 17, 2023

2 minutes ago, Helstrem said:

fully be for the collector aspect of having a rare ship that will not be available again for at least two year.

Same thought, but it really depends on how my in-game wallet can handle. Its gonna be a tug of war between collector desire and in game resource hogging ability at the end😅

2 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said:

FXP + stacked reset bonuses on the Harugumo line

tempting to do that if I am close to the target, since free xp is something I am having a surplus of.

November 17, 2023

1 minute ago, Helstrem said:

If I get Kitakami it will fully be for the collector aspect of having a rare ship that will not be available again for at least two year. I would expect Kitakmi to be a port queen, perhaps taken into co-op if I need a lot of torpedo hits.

Me too. Mostly it will be for the rare status and flake rewards if I do it.

I would never take it into PVP as I am a Co-op main (BB's in Randoms yes - T4 Cruisers pretending to be T10 Cruisers no - LOL). Frankly, with the staggered reload thing it has I am not so sure it will be very good in Co-op. I think the games will be over long before all the torps are loaded or at best you get one massive launch. In the rare games that extend out beyond the usual 4-5 mins it could be interesting.

November 17, 2023

I have no interest in the Kitakami ... I got her as a rental way back when she was last available and I wasn't impressed. It's a meme ship basically.

I'm definitely going to get the Elli and the Ferruccio, and possibly the Defense. I've got just over 1.8 million coal and it takes awhile to accumulate large amounts of coal. I could use research points though but I've only got about 9,000 of those.

November 17, 2023

1 minute ago, AdmiralThunder said:

Me too. Mostly it will be for the rare status and flake rewards if I do it.

I would never take it into PVP as I am a Co-op main (BB's in Randoms yes - T4 Cruisers pretending to be T10 Cruisers no - LOL). Frankly, with the staggered reload thing it has I am not so sure it will be very good in Co-op. I think the games will be over long before all the torps are loaded or at best you get one massive launch. In the rare games that extend out beyond the usual 4-5 mins it could be interesting.

Probably have 4 mounts loaded by the time you make first contact with the enemy, two per side. That can bag four DDs/cruisers or two BBs.

November 17, 2023

3 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said:

Me too. Mostly it will be for the rare status and flake rewards if I do it.

I would never take it into PVP as I am a Co-op main (BB's in Randoms yes - T4 Cruisers pretending to be T10 Cruisers no - LOL). Frankly, with the staggered reload thing it has I am not so sure it will be very good in Co-op. I think the games will be over long before all the torps are loaded or at best you get one massive launch. In the rare games that extend out beyond the usual 4-5 mins it could be interesting.

Apparently they've added a nerf where you can only fire a certain number of tubes every 60 seconds.

November 17, 2023

14 hours ago, AdmiralThunder said:

Those figures are if you ONLY use those to get it. For example, if you JUST use Coal it will cost 1.5 Million to get Kitakami (and you also get the other 3 ships). It isn't all those added up. You can mix and match them, to lower the cost of the various resources, but all are not required.

Also, don't think anyone has mentioned this yet but you CAN (not saying you should) buy up to 16 of the needed 80 stages to get Kitakami with Premium Time (60 days p/ stage).

Thanks! Im just baffled over the math of the last sentence. "Buy 16 outa 80 stages with 60 days premium .... per stage" ........

So for me in the premium shop 60 days of premium is about 200 SEK = 20 Euros/dollars-ish. So 16 times 20 Euros = 320 Euros!! And thats just gets you not even 25 % progression to the ship? Is my math right?.

If so, are WG thinking they are selling the cup of crist or just some T4-5 cruiser with sequence loading torps at T10?!

Still get amazed by this company even after 8 years (not in a good way)

Edited November 18, 2023 by OldSchoolGaming_Youtube
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November 17, 2023

Just now, CFagan_1987 said:

Apparently they've added a nerf where you can only fire a certain number of tubes every 60 seconds.

No, you can fire as many as are loaded, but they load one bank at a time, 60 seconds per load.

November 17, 2023

Just now, OldSchoolGaming_Youtube said:

Thanks! Im just baffled over the math of the last sentence. "Buy 16 outa 80 stages with 60 days premium .... per stage" ........

So for me in the premium shop 60 days of premium is about 200 SEK = 20 Euros/dollars-ish. So 16 times 20 Euros = 320 Euros!! And thats just gets you not even 25 % progression to the ship? Is my math right or am I just shitfaced? (Friday evening ... have downed 3 GTs and 3 glasses of wine).

Am I right?

If so, are WG thinking they are selling the cup of crist or just some shitty T4-5 cruiser with sequence loading torps at T10?!

Still get amazed by this company even after 8 years (not in a good way)

Some players, see Admiral Thunder's resource list in his OP, have ludicrous amounts of premium time. This is intended as a way to drain those away, not for people to buy new premium time with which to buy stages with, though WG certainly won't object to that.

November 17, 2023

6 minutes ago, CFagan_1987 said:

Apparently they've added a nerf where you can only fire a certain number of tubes every 60 seconds.

Back in the Longago when I had the ship, I got disoriented firing a full broadside because the aiming viewpoint would reset as each launcher was launched. Made precision firing a pain.

After looking at the costs listed, I can't help but cringe at the thought of losing that much hard-earned Steel or Coal for this ship, and I don't get enough RB points to even be a consideration. The additional ships offered are, at best, curiosities for my preferences in ships, so this is looking like a complete pass event for me.

Edited November 17, 2023 by Jakob Knight

November 17, 2023

11 minutes ago, Helstrem said:

No, you can fire as many as are loaded, but they load one bank at a time, 60 seconds per load.

So for 5 min to load one full broadside? Or is it 10?! Not sure but didn't Kitakami have 5 launchers per side back in CBT? So do 2 launchers load simultaneously per side so both sides are fully loaded after 5 min or is it 10 min for entire ship? OG Kita was fully loaded in 2,5 min.

Doesnt really feel like the OG Kitakami, does it? If you need to wait for ages to launch that legendary 40 torps soup? And meanwhile just sail around in a T4-5 crusier at T10? Food for thought......

Old OG Kita btw .... also fun fact "BaronVonGames" was the guy who made me buy into the CBT of this game back in the day.

Edited November 17, 2023 by OldSchoolGaming_Youtube

November 17, 2023

Managed to dig out an old screenshot, yea the guy there can flood the sea and stutter my screen in less than 3 minutes. Good old memories

Edited November 17, 2023 by GMMF

November 17, 2023

2 minutes ago, OldSchoolGaming_Youtube said:

Thanks! Im just baffled over the math of the last sentence. "Buy 16 outa 80 stages with 60 days premium .... per stage" ........

So for me in the premium shop 60 days of premium is about 200 SEK = 20 Euros/dollars-ish. So 16 times 20 Euros = 320 Euros!! And thats just gets you not even 25 % progression to the ship? Is my math right or am I just shitfaced? (Friday evening ... have downed 3 GTs and 3 glasses of wine).

Am I right?

If so, are WG thinking they are selling the cup of crist or just some shitty T4-5 cruiser with sequence loading torps at T10?!

Still get amazed by this company even after 8 years (not in a good way)

Yeah that is a big ticket cost for sure. But for people without the free in game resources it does give a small bit of help through real $$$ if they really want Kitakami (or one of the other ships). I don't advocate it but what others do with their $$$ is their business and it helps keep the game going for the truly F2P folks so more power to them. For me to buy the 16 stages worth of PT it would be (US Dollars)...

16X60 - 960 Days Needed
Best Deal:
- 2X 360 Days (720) @ $95.99 each = $191.98 (USD)
- 1X 180 Days @ $53.99 (USD)
- 2X 30 Days (60) @ $9.99 each = $19.98 (USD)
- Total = $265.95 (USD)

That is a lot of $$$ for only part of the total cost. However, I have so much PT now (1812 days = 4.96 years LOL) that I could use some to soften the blow and not really be impacted. I bought 1 year of PT in the summer of 2017 and have not bought PT specifically since while ranging from 1750-1950 days. I have been 1800+ days for over a year now. We get enough free, and then we also get it as a bonus with paid content a lot of times, that I could probably use that 960 days and in a few months actually be ahead of where I was when subtracting it. I won't use all 16 stages worth as it is too high of a dollar value but I might throw a little at it. Santa crates are coming and I will end up with a lot of free ones, plus I will most likely buy a few, and they drop 30 ($1), 90 ($3), and 180 ($5).

November 17, 2023

I looked at all the ships I'd have had to set aside in order to have enough resources for Kitakami (if I'd known it was coming) and decided "You know what? I'd rather have all those ships I spent all those resources on."

All I ask is that WG puts a bot Kitakami into any mission in which I am required to spot torpedoes. 😋

Edited November 17, 2023 by Ensign Cthulhu

November 17, 2023

12 hours ago, AdmiralThunder said:

Yeah that is a big ticket cost for sure. But for people without the free in game resources it does give a small bit of help through real $$$ if they really want Kitakami (or one of the other ships). I don't advocate it but what others do with their $$$ is their business and it helps keep the game going for the truly F2P folks so more power to them. For me to buy the 16 stages worth of PT it would be (US Dollars)...

16X60 - 960 Days Needed

Best Deal:

2X 360 Days (720) @ $95.99 each = $191.98 (USD)

1X 180 Days @ $53.99 (USD)

2X 30 Days (60) @ $9.99 each = $19.98 (USD)

Total = $265.95 (USD)

That is a lot of $$$ for only part of the total cost. However, I have so much PT now (1812 days = 4.96 years LOL) that I could use some to soften the blow and not really be impacted. I bought 1 year of PT in the summer of 2017 and have not bought PT specifically since while ranging from 1750-1950 days. I have been 1800+ days for over a year now. We get enough free, and then we also get it as a bonus with paid content a lot of times, that I could probably use that 960 days and in a few months actually be ahead of where I was when subtracting it. I won't use all 16 stages worth as it is too high of a dollar value but I might throw a little at it. Santa crates are coming and I will end up with a lot of free ones, plus I will most likely buy a few, and they drop 30 ($1), 90 ($3), and 180 ($5).

I dont question youre math.

But for the youngsters your there (Im 50 y.o.), is this "normal"? Im a guy that has been playing since 2015 (CBT) and I have a lot of free ships/premiums and all that Jazz, but I spend it on the regular as well (for free Premiums) so not huge amounts of just stockpiled currency.

Is this really worth it? Is it only me that react to WG prices over all? Was looking at some T10 premium and it was the same as 3 Triple A titles. Cool that they made this event for some 2% of players that has stockpile on RB points, steel, Coal etc etc etc. But is this normal?! This grind for a gimmicky T10/5?

Edited November 18, 2023 by OldSchoolGaming_Youtube
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November 17, 2023

41 minutes ago, OldSchoolGaming_Youtube said:

Im sorry but im a bit hammered since its Friday night, but I dont question youre math.

But for the youngsters your there (Im 50 y.o.), is this "normal"? Im a guy that has been playing since 2015 (CBT) and I have a lot of free ships/premiums and all that Jazz, but I spend it on the regular as well (for free Premiums) so not huge amounts of just stockpiled currency.

Is this really worth it? Is it only me that react to WG prices over all? Was looking at some T10 premium and it was the same as 3 Triple A titles. Cool that they made this event for some 2% of players that has stockpile on RB points, steel, Coal etc etc etc. But is this normal?! This grind for a gimmicky T10/5?

It's a resource sink done on purpose by WG to bleed off these huge stockpiles many players have. Also, they don't want a lot of players getting Kitakami (they have stated this publicly).

This is the only online game I play so is it normal? From what I have read and heard from friends who do game a lot this game is worse than some and better than others as far as grind, monetization, etc...

November 18, 2023

10 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said:

From what I have read and heard from friends who do game a lot this game is worse than some and better than others as far as grind, monetization, etc...

Out of curiosity i would really like to hear which games are worth, then again, maybe not.

November 18, 2023

10 minutes ago, UnrepentantSinner said:

Out of curiosity i would really like to hear which games are worth, then again, maybe not.

For one example the War Thunder grind is way worse than WOWS.

November 18, 2023

9 minutes ago, AdmiralThunder said:

For one example the War Thunder grind is way worse than WOWS.

Already heard about that and decided that War Thunder is not a viable alternative.

November 18, 2023

7 hours ago, Aragathor said:

All stages up to Kitkami and excluding flags in:

Research points - 192.000

Steel - 136.000

Coal - 1.520.000

The Kitakami costs 50% of that.

Wow.

November 18, 2023

9 hours ago, Scrubby_McScrub said:

Where are we all at with this? I did a tally this morning and I currently have 75 of the 80 stages covered with what I have in hand today. I more than likely will have the 80 stages covered by the time the event starts.

I'm really curious because I want an idea of how much of a nightmare randoms is going to be when all those are unleashed.

First of all , some of us will probably get it just for collection and play it very raringly in randoms but will spam coop /asymmetric. F.e. I have most subs but have only played in coop very sparingly. Have the Smolensk now even the B but have say 1 or 2 randoms vs hundreds in coop where I play Smolensk almost daily.

I bought the Smolensk B but have around 5-600 K Coal now, have all coal ships and will get at least 3-400 K until event ends through snowflakes , daily containers etc.

So maybe 60-70% through coal.

RB points 169.000, have all RB ships + all upgrades except 4. When event was announced I resetted French DDs while using 4 resets extra w around 3 M freexP and German cruisers. Currently on T6 of these. 1 is double so 71.400 RB (-T5,6) which should be ready before end of event. I do plan to grind a lot in Asymmetric. I have also the T10 left of an earlier reset of RU DDs

with 4 x through several regrinds of the T9 and now on the final total replay/regrind where I do all. Clan bonus will make these numbers higher.

My goal is probably to use a mix depending on if any news on other coal/RB releases are coming until end of event. I want to have reserves in any resource category, RB partly through a massive stack of FreeXP which I used f.e. now on French DDs.

That is the tricky part of WG, normally the resources are not mixable so I want to have reserves directly or indirectly for sudden events.

One other aspect, I do not think that many will pay huge amounts of money to get the Kitikami. But I do think that quite a lot of veterans will be able to get the Kiti with those mix of resources, but will really those veterans spam the ship in randoms after the initial "fun" period.

I for myself will prefer other ships in randoms especially because I do not play in divisions which maybe is the major grief factor where players want to maximize irritation.

However I am curious on how effective and fun it might be in Asymmetric mode. Coop I prefer fast firing gunboats like Smolensk or torp DDs like Kleber, Benham, Somers. But I can see myself to play it some in coop. But I am over 600 ships so I do not think I after the initial period will have her as one of my main ships category, maybe the ships in the category I play a few times now and then.

November 18, 2023

1 hour ago, Gnirf said:

First of all , some of us will probably get it just for collection and play it very raringly in randoms but will spam coop /asymmetric. F.e. I have most subs but have only played in coop very sparingly. Have the Smolensk now even the B but have say 1 or 2 randoms vs hundreds in coop where I play Smolensk almost daily.

I bought the Smolensk B but have around 5-600 K Coal now, have all coal ships and will get at least 3-400 K until event ends through snowflakes , daily containers etc.

So maybe 60-70% through coal.

RB points 169.000, have all RB ships + all upgrades except 4. When event was announced I resetted French DDs while using 4 resets extra w around 3 M freexP and German cruisers. Currently on T6 of these. 1 is double so 71.400 RB (-T5,6) which should be ready before end of event. I do plan to grind a lot in Asymmetric. I have also the T10 left of an earlier reset of RU DDs

with 4 x through several regrinds of the T9 and now on the final total replay/regrind where I do all. Clan bonus will make these numbers higher.

My goal is probably to use a mix depending on if any news on other coal/RB releases are coming until end of event. I want to have reserves in any resource category, RB partly through a massive stack of FreeXP which I used f.e. now on French DDs.

That is the tricky part of WG, normally the resources are not mixable so I want to have reserves directly or indirectly for sudden events.

One other aspect, I do not think that many will pay huge amounts of money to get the Kitikami. But I do think that quite a lot of veterans will be able to get the Kiti with those mix of resources, but will really those veterans spam the ship in randoms after the initial "fun" period.

I for myself will prefer other ships in randoms especially because I do not play in divisions which maybe is the major grief factor where players want to maximize irritation.

However I am curious on how effective and fun it might be in Asymmetric mode. Coop I prefer fast firing gunboats like Smolensk or torp DDs like Kleber, Benham, Somers. But I can see myself to play it some in coop. But I am over 600 ships so I do not think I after the initial period will have her as one of my main ships category, maybe the ships in the category I play a few times now and then.

I think the single torp reload mechanic thing it is saddled with is going to really limit it in Co-op where the average game is about 4-5 mins tops.

November 18, 2023

2 hours ago, AdmiralThunder said:

I think the single torp reload mechanic thing it is saddled with is going to really limit it in Co-op where the average game is about 4-5 mins tops.

Ok then I assume it will mainly for collection. I have the sistership Oi as Waterline kit that is in my huge stack of unbuilt kits.

November 18, 2023

17 hours ago, Scrubby_McScrub said:

Where are we all at with this? I did a tally this morning and I currently have 75 of the 80 stages covered with what I have in hand today. I more than likely will have the 80 stages covered by the time the event starts.

I'm really curious because I want an idea of how much of a nightmare randoms is going to be when all those are unleashed.

FWIW, I think I can already get the Kitakami if she is released now. I haven't used my Coal for the longest time, and I've earned a lot of them, including Coal from containers rewarded by Community Contributors. I also have some Research Points unused, and right now I'm having a lot of fun with the Cleveland as I regrind the USN CL line for another batch of RPs. (My Omaha still has Research Points x11 waiting to be harvested.)

However, the question that I still have to answer with finality—and it is one that I currently find a bit difficult to answer is—should I?

Should I get the Kitakami when I see it as the concrete manifestation of Wargaming's incessant crusade to instill FOMO? Should I get a Tier X cruiser that is literally food for CVs? Should I get a meme ship that I will only tie up in Port?

I've been thinking about this whole Salvage for Victory event that is due to arrive and start in a few weeks. Given what I like to play, the availability of ships that can also spam torpedoes, and how I play my ships, the decision I have arrived at, as of now, is a dispassionate 'no'.

I will think about it again when the time comes. There is still plenty of time.

November 18, 2023

Some of you people have ungodly amounts of resources. Spend it!

November 18, 2023

I have the resources for Kitakami but don't want it. I feel sitting on those resources really irritates the bean counters over at WG HQ

How's Your Kitakami Resource Grind Going?

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