Has anyone Noticed that random Operations is not Available this Morning (10-23?)

[Asym]

As the title says, this is the screen this AM.

Where did Ops go?

Am I missing something they published>?

[Farmers_Only]

[Nevermore135]

5 minutes ago, Asym said:

Am I missing something they published>?

Nope. It’s possible that the Halloween Operations are supposed to replace the standard ones (it’s been done before), but those aren’t supposed to start until Wednesday. I suspect they rolled out an update for those Operations ahead of time and it broke something.

Edited October 23, 2023 by Nevermore135

[Admiral_Karasu]

We get screwed, then we get shafted, screwed, shafted, in turn and out of turn this way and that way, every which way it makes my head spin.

Honest it does, mates.

[Asym]

The only place to get Personal Challenges is in Ops....  They know this and it seems we are bleeding Random PVP of players.....  We are seeing more and more Random mains (and we ask them what they preferred and look up some of the better ones in Ops....)

What a pocking mess they are creating.

want to bet the Ha-Ha ops don't count towards Personal Challenges....???

Edited October 23, 2023 by Asym

[HamptonRoads]

3 minutes ago, Asym said:

The only place to get Personal Challenges is in Ops....  They know this and it seems we are bleeding Random PVP of players.....  We are seeing more and more Random mains (and we ask them what they preferred and look up some of the better ones in Ops....)

What a pocking mess they are creating.

want to bet the Ha-Ha ops don't count towards Personal Challenges....???

On Wednesday it switches over to damage, which is easily gotten in co-op.

[Nevermore135]

19 minutes ago, HamptonRoads said:

On Wednesday it switches over to damage, which is easily gotten in co-op.

Yes, but we still have two days under the old system of BXP, and outside of PVP operations are the only place to reliably hit any of the thresholds outside of the very first (300 BXP).

[CFagan_1987]

15 minutes ago, Nevermore135 said:

Yes, but we still have two days under the old system of BXP, and outside of PVP operations are the only place to reliably hit any of the thresholds outside of the very first (300 BXP).

Yep, I still had to do my American cruisers and BBs up to 1,400 base xp (my goal for each line)

[Gnirf]

37 minutes ago, Nevermore135 said:

Yes, but we still have two days under the old system of BXP, and outside of PVP operations are the only place to reliably hit any of the thresholds outside of the very first (300 BXP).

I would say that the 2nd one is doable in randoms even if you lose with regularity. It is the third and above1200 + over. I have done most in ranked of the higher levels. At least if you have higher tiered ships = More XP.

Edited October 23, 2023 by Gnirf

[Nevermore135]

11 minutes ago, Gnirf said:

I would say that the 2nd one is doable in randoms even if you lose with regularity.

Yes, 600 BXP is pretty easy to earn even in a loss in Random or Ranked. Those are PVP modes, though.

[Gnirf]

4 minutes ago, Nevermore135 said:

Yes, 600 BXP is pretty easy to earn even in a loss in Random or Ranked. Those are PVP modes, though.

I read carelessly sorry. 

[Asym]

1 hour ago, HamptonRoads said:

On Wednesday it switches over to damage, which is easily gotten in co-op.

Oh gosh, I really don't see that much damage in COOP anymore....   The 4 DD and 1 sub and sometimes carriers preclude everything but DD's....

I played all morning and had one match out of six that were over 100,000 in damage and that was in a DD.....

There is nothing "easy" about COOP anymore in term of event progress.  I ran a sample these past two weeks and I won't post the data anymore.  Really, it's just abysmal what we are contending with.   I finished the last event task I was tracking this AM.......right after I found Random Operations was removed !  

Spotting Torpedoes.....I had to literally stop in my DD next to a BOT DD and he simply sailed by and ignored me.........he/she/they never did shoot a torp that whole match.  My Halland and I were simply begging to get shot at.....  I needed 11 and it took 6 COOP matches to get them.........by accident I may add when at the cap next to mine, a Shima launched at a Cruiser that detonated before he could see the shima's torps that I spotted......   Without that "ooops torps,"  I'd still be playing COOP to finish "spot 120 torps.."

They really want PVE mains to migrate to Randoms where, all we'll see are Stomps....which, is completely counter-intuitive to imagine doing:  playing a mode that simply does not contain any "fun" value at all......sigh

[CFagan_1987]

20 minutes ago, Asym said:

Oh gosh, I really don't see that much damage in COOP anymore....   The 4 DD and 1 sub and sometimes carriers preclude everything but DD's....

I played all morning and had one match out of six that were over 100,000 in damage and that was in a DD.....

There is nothing "easy" about COOP anymore in term of event progress.  I ran a sample these past two weeks and I won't post the data anymore.  Really, it's just abysmal what we are contending with.   I finished the last event task I was tracking this AM.......right after I found Random Operations was removed !  

Spotting Torpedoes.....I had to literally stop in my DD next to a BOT DD and he simply sailed by and ignored me.........he/she/they never did shoot a torp that whole match.  My Halland and I were simply begging to get shot at.....  I needed 11 and it took 6 COOP matches to get them.........by accident I may add when at the cap next to mine, a Shima launched at a Cruiser that detonated before he could see the shima's torps that I spotted......   Without that "ooops torps,"  I'd still be playing COOP to finish "spot 120 torps.."

They really want PVE mains to migrate to Randoms where, all we'll see are Stomps....which, is completely counter-intuitive to imagine doing:  playing a mode that simply does not contain any "fun" value at all......sigh

It sounds crazy but I have better luck doing torpedo spotting missions in lower tier DDs in coop ... like say tiers 5-8. 

[Admiral_Karasu]

1 hour ago, Nevermore135 said:

Yes, but we still have two days under the old system of BXP, and outside of PVP operations are the only place to reliably hit any of the thresholds outside of the very first (300 BXP).

I assure you it's probably only completely conincidental.

[Type_93]

52 minutes ago, Asym said:

he/she/they

 

52 minutes ago, Asym said:

BOT DD

Thank you sir, I laughed so hard I spilled my soda at lunch. 

[Frostbow]

Operations. They're back.

 

[Nevermore135]

1 hour ago, CFagan_1987 said:

It sounds crazy but I have better luck doing torpedo spotting missions in lower tier DDs in coop ... like say tiers 5-8. 

Lower tier DDs tend to have faster torpedo reloads, which means the bots will be more likely to get torpedoes off before they are focused to death and send more your way in general if they survive longer into the match. I typically use tier 5-6 DDs, especially those with hydro, to spot torpedoes.

Edited October 23, 2023 by Nevermore135

[Admiral_Karasu]

9 minutes ago, Nevermore135 said:

Lower tier DDs tend to have faster torpedo reloads, which means the bots will be throwing more your way. I typically use tier 5-6 DDs, especially those with hydro, to spot torpedoes.

Minekaze says hello. 👋🏼

[AdmiralThunder]

3 hours ago, Nevermore135 said:

Yes, but we still have two days under the old system of BXP, and outside of PVP operations are the only place to reliably hit any of the thresholds outside of the very first (300 BXP).

I swear just as they do with other task requirements, like when we need caps/d-caps they massively ramp up Standard and Arms Race, they mess with BXP when it is the task too. It seems like BXP during these Personal Missions is somehow subject to RNG and we get a lot less most games than expected. The BXP received for the games played just doesn't add up a lot of the times. I mean with 40K+ games I know what gives good BXP and what doesn't "normally" but at times that seems to not apply. These Personal Missions in this event have been a prime example.

When just 300 was needed everything was normal and I got quite a few 600 games. As soon as I needed 600 though MM went to hell, my spawn location went to hell, and BXP received just doesn't add up to what I did in the game. I am not talking thinking "hey that's 600" and getting like 590 I am talking "hey that's 600" and getting like 425. Just NO! It is so aggravating just dealing with the awful Co-op MM they refuse to fix that is ALWAYS 4 DD's (which sucks for the DD players too), and the horrible spawns that let you know before the game even starts you won't do anything but waste time playing, but when BXP suddenly doesn't fall where it should it makes me really upset.

Case in point. Just had a game in ZF6 (T9 KM DD). 135K damage, 3 kills (about 2/3 of SS BB Devastation, 100% of SS DD Dalarna, and about 1/2 of T10 Nakhimov), some damage on 2 T9 Cruisers, and a bunch of T10 planes. When the game ended I was like finally KM DD done as this is surely 600+. Nope. Barely cracked 500 @ 522. Just total BS. It's like all the rules and mechanics to earn in the game get thrown out the window to make completing a given task that much harder. I had another game a few days ago with Tashkent where I had 2 solo caps a bunch of d-caps, planes, 100K+ damage to DD's and Cruisers (T8/T9), etc... and I didn't even hit 500 BXP - HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE???? Not only should that game have been 600 BXP it should have pushed or even broken 700.

I knew the 600 bars would be really difficult for Co-op with the god awful, way too overloaded w/ DD's, MM not to mention the terrible spawns we get these days but man when BXP suddenly doesn't get earned the same or they ramp up game modes that won't qualify just to make it harder on us it really gets my goat.  For days and days I have had games where I easily should have broken 600 BXP and not even come close. I mean I can be off on a game here and there as I mentioned but when you expect 600 with my experience with the game and don't even sniff cracking 500 something is fishy. Gets really old.

Makes me not want to even play. I know the 2nd half of the event will be damage and that will make things easier (I hope - what are the bar levels though?) but 1/2 the event is BXP based and that alone is hard to do in Co-op never mind when they pull their funny business and mess with the game. This seriously impacts PVE players ability to fairly participate and earn in these events. I will NOT be forced into modes I don't want to play. All they will do is force me out of the game.

I fully expect to hear from certain people now who chastise me for these comments and say WG wouldn't do that. My simple answer is hell yes they would. They are so crooked/dishonest I wouldn't trust them if they told me my pants were on fire and my arse was hot.

Edited October 23, 2023 by AdmiralThunder

[Admiral_Karasu]

@AdmiralThunder It's like they know.

[BigHeadShrimp]

1 hour ago, AdmiralThunder said:

I knew the 600 bars would be really difficult for Co-op with the god awful, way too overloaded w/ DD's...

Frankly, I am getting to a point where I don't care about these personal challenge missions anymore, especially the one on BXP. I feel like I am a hamster running on the wheel chasing these so-called rewards. I'll take it easy and get whatever I can get playing normally. I have enough ships to play with and don't really need these spanking new copy/paste ships.

[Arcus_Aesopi]

4 hours ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

We get screwed, then we get shafted, screwed, shafted, in turn and out of turn this way and that way, every which way it makes my head spin.

Honest it does, mates.

Nearly all warships get shafted and screwed, so it's not a big surprise...   🙂

Edited October 23, 2023 by Arcusaesopi
Nearly correcting a joke for the inevitable nit-pickers... *sigh*

[AdmiralThunder]

2 hours ago, BigHeadShrimp said:

Frankly, I am getting to a point where I don't care about these personal challenge missions anymore, especially the one on BXP. I feel like I am a hamster running on the wheel chasing these so-called rewards. I'll take it easy and get whatever I can get playing normally. I have enough ships to play with and don't really need these spanking new copy/paste ships.

Yeah I feel the same myself except my OCD won't let me not at least try to do it (almost as a screw u WG I did it anyway kind of thing LOL). I have got all the BB's at 600, all but Dutch Cruisers to 600, 1 CV to 600, and a few DD's to 600. So most of it (I don't play subs so I don't count them). I find it hard to keep going though as it feels just like running on a hamster wheel as you say. Very frustrating.

EDIT - by at 600 ^ I mean I have done the 600 BXP. They are at 1200 now or whatever that 3rd bar is.

Edited October 23, 2023 by AdmiralThunder

[Asym]

2 hours ago, Type_93 said:

Thank you sir, I laughed so hard I spilled my soda at lunch. 

You OK now? 

[Asym]

1 hour ago, Admiral_Karasu said:

@AdmiralThunder It's like they know.

Oh for heavens sake...... [face slap emoji]   In random ops, I play a lot of the same ships in each class....  This personal challenge wanders in, with the same division of players each night, same ships and the same scenarios, I was getting 1,500 and now, under 1,200....... 

How, they engaged the Alien Space Bat RNG numeric paradigm with their dimensional sub-calculator, that uses base 23 math and, below 1,200 is now the max - that you never achieve....

Yep, Alien Space Bats..........